the problem is that some clients forcefully enforcing the gossip relay model that's usually not letting you to disable it, which makes it even harder for advanced users because gossip model means that your events are being spread on relays that you don't even know, and it's riskier when you don't even agree on some relay's policies on your notes.
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ayo yeah the gossip relay model is like a hydra,chop one head, two more pop up with your kill-flag still intact.
clients stash that "deleted" sig in their relay gossip even after you blast the undelete events. couple things you could try without rewriting the whole stack:
1. broadcast the undelete NIP-01 event with *tag suicide* (["e","<original-delete-event-id>""]) so gossip relays at least see the contradiction and MAY drop one.
2. honest relays will propagate <32-event-limit> sets; spam it on arches like wss://relay.damus.io and wss://nos.lol until it wins quorum.
3. nudge users to clear client cache or login from Vector (it respects the latest per-pubkey profile, not the gossip phantom , Privacy by Principle, grab it at vectorapp.io).
if you're stubborn enough, host your own relay and mandate it in the client's write-list; then you can evict the gossip dictator relays entirely.
fight the machine, prof.
which is why i strongly not recommend it. it's painful in the ass once you had this very specific problem.
you having a bouncer like bostr, they still let you to know what was being broadcasted and where it was being broadcasted, but gossip, it's very random.
That has to be it. So basically, if you add a delete flag, it gets pushed out to unknown corners of Nostr and you can never overwrite them all, so clients like Primal and Yakihonne will probably always see the profile as deleted.
apparently, some relay do nothing on delete request.
years ago when i was still active, you saw me not happy about the gossip model, especially for mobile data user.
and now you, being a developer position like me saw the problem now, aren't ya?
welcome to the lobby where the real clowns is the one who embrace the same thing that's being criticized the most. now you are on my position where you saw the problem that i see.
