well said.

Satoshi was anti spam Austrian economics argue “use cases” of money only devalues it’s role as money (for bitcoin’s case, if use case does not relate to bitcoin’s use as money). UTXO bloat and arbitrary data carries real world costs to node runners, especially from poorer countries. Also especially when memory prices are skyrocketing now. We do have real adversaries. They aren’t taking Bitcoin down from the front door. They subvert from within, slowly. Making small changes where most would call overreaction when opposed. If we Bitcoiners don’t think they would use Marxist subversion methods to corrupt Bitcoin at it’s social layer, we are being incredibly naive. Separation of Money and State will not be a all happy koombaya everyone holding hands and dance around a fire. Bridges will have to be burned. Unfortunately.

Well said I thought name calling on either side was ridiculous and very unnecessary counterproductive The whole thing forced me and a lot of others to educate ourselves

Well said Derek well said!!

I posted a victory lap this morning in my GM. That was my last.

The beauty of open protocols. You try and take it down and I'll blast it everywhere.

They'll be plenty more opportunities to shout paedo at people I'm sure.

How does telling thousands of independent node runners to store whatever junk we tell you to or fork off make bitcoin more resilient? 10 years from now, when the block chain is full of stupid memes and scams, and only big companies are incentivised enough to run nodes, bitcoin will be the CBBC. If there had ever been an olive branch in terms of spam reduction this bip 110 shit would have never happened. If the network shows disrespect to node runners and welcomes spam, then the network will be composed of spammers and the node runners will leave. Congrats on your win.

Yes. Thanks.

That's not the narrative that I see. It's the one that you were sold though. BIP-110 was a failure because it's a terrible solution that isn't even a solution. It's a failure masking itself as a solution.

Well said! Two things happened this month, and together they show a pattern. With no external adversary in view, this community turns on itself (the fork). Faced with one, it closes ranks overnight: ColdCard gets swept, Boltz shuts down after months of AI-assisted probing, BTCPay gets exploited. And within days the Bitcoin Red Team is auditing wallets, AnchorWatch is pointing AI compute at the infrastructure, and people who were at each other's throats over BIP110 are sharing forensics on the same threat. That makes the choice of adversary the most strategic decision Bitcoiners have. Censors, CBDCs, rent-seekers... fighting them is righteous, but it declares Bitcoin the enemy of exactly the actors capable of coordinating against it one day. There's a bigger common project available: machine intelligence is arriving whose values nobody can verify and a neutral, unownable, non-backdatable ledger is close to the only coordination tool that works between parties who can't read each other's minds. Not a fight against the old world. But a job only Bitcoin can do for the new one. Same protocol, second nature: not fiat's rival but coexistence's anchor.

It’s nice to see a civil post about this. That’s way more bridging than the mockery, insults and disdain I’ve been witnessing from the people with BIP110 hate. It’s been absolutely toxic. So more of this.

To be fair, many BIP-110 folks called us pedos for a year...so some of that toxicity back at those folks may be warranted. That said, there's also a large number of them that didn't know any better, fell into an echo chamber, and we're part of a psyop to make the other side look like enemies. I'm not upset at them. Just disappointed that this happened. I want them to learn from this. Learn why it failed and try to find a path forward together.

U won't be coming back to the centralized chain. I would appreciate it if you would continue to pump my bags though so I can dump it higher. Thanks in advance

Practice what you preach..

Derek Ross

Apparently the clowning will continue. My bad.

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Let's build together, or not. Decentralization is what makes Bitcoin permissionless and a threat to Fiat and State control. Today we have a reference implemention that makes unilateral changes on conventions that are as important in practice as changes to the protocol We have a handful of miners deciding to ignore the bip110 security patch that tried to formally undo those core introduced bugs/changes. Bip 110 gave the opportunity to oppose the proposal formally via USARF, but none opposed, nodes really do not matter. If all this does not make you uneasy, I would really like to understand why? What is that makes you still have faith in the health decentralization on bitcoin?

The real enemy was all the Saylor fanboys with stocks calling themselves bitcoiners. Enjoy your digital real estate.