Is there any real defense to the government shutting the Internet off on you?
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Starlink? Sounds like an @GHOST question
No.
Starlink is only as good as Elon let's it be.
Yes, improvement, but it has the same weak points as your normal Internet
if it is targeted then yes, have redundant connections
anon data esim is a solid option
if it is for the whole population, more difficult, starlink will sometimes still work unless elon is complicit in the action
in that case, the only real fallback is mesh, which is hard to scale
Silent Link
Heads on poles.
I'd say maybe StarLink and other satellite-based services, however I don't know how free and unbiased they could stay once a hypothetical world government forcibly took control of it.
Starlink IS government internet.
NO not in "any country" during wartime.
What’s the context behind the question?
In nearly all situations government’s would not want to do this as it would disincentivize productivity and economic activity across the population - so while they may “gain” the ability to silence “dissent” during wartime - we must also consider what they would “lose” in doing so.
Hey @ODELL take a look at Reticulum.Network
It's the only mesh that can scale
War is a powerful incentive to do crazy shit.
Iran shut off their Internet
Mesh if you’re in a population-dense area, public access (libraries, etc), and things like Blockstream satellite or amateur radio if you’re desperate. But as others have said, if your government (or someone else’s (war?)) is turning off your internet you probably have bigger problems.
guns
I’d just go be a mountain man if that happened to me
Not any REAL defense. Small scale? Yes. But large populations? No.
I should add that the solution to most of those bigger problems is going to be: gun.
People of the free world, let’s mesh up
Forces me to touch grass so it’s all good!
No it's not... It's not a government entity. It's corporate internet.
Oh yeah? How would you be able to get to "the mountains" if no one has GPS
checkmate
The #1 priority of the state is to protect the state and the power it holds at all cost. The wellbeing of the populace is way down on the list. If shutting off the internet aligns with priority #1 it can and will happen if necessary.
Basically the same thing
Okay but what about
"The mountains are calling and I must go"
That's my alarm system so I can get there before Google maps goes down
Satellite connection with a foreign provider. Or store and forward networks a la FIDONet (or really, Nostr with relays that get more creative than TCP/IP...).
But yea, you do lose a lot of functionality even if you can save some.
Learn to enjoy playing board games with your family and neighbors
Meshtastic
whoa nuts
Sad to see