Yeah I always try to engage in good faith debate but you're right it was a silly goalpost shift I fell for.

i'm not disagreeing that they inisinuated themselves into the jewish orthodoxy. ----- European kings relied on Jewish moneylenders primarily because Christian religious doctrine prohibited usury—lending money at interest—limiting the ability of Christian financiers to engage in this lucrative activity. This created a niche that Jews, who were permitted to lend to non-Jews under certain interpretations of religious law, filled. Jewish financiers became essential to royal finances, often serving as court Jews, providing loans to monarchs for wars, building projects, and administrative expenses.  Aaron of Lincoln, one of the most prominent figures, was likely the wealthiest person in England during the 12th century, financing major royal undertakings and leaving an estate worth about £100,000.  Similarly, Josce of Gloucester financed Richard de Clare’s conquest of Ireland in 1170, and Vivelin of Strasbourg lent 340,000 florins to Edward III of England before the Hundred Years’ War.  ----- funny enough, only 200 years after the kharazian diaspora, and the prior conversion of the ruling class of khazaria, so, the jewish money lenders in europe fits right in with what i'm saying. ruling class "jews" who systematically infiltrtated all of the jewish families. cuckolds. it's a classic strategy of deception and war, exemplified by the breeding strategy of this species of bird. be the mind behind the action but pin it on patsies. so it does matter, because just like you, most jews also don't recognise that their rulers are not birth jews like the 12 tribes. is it really correct to say that they are jews if a) they converted, and b) they infiltrated and corrupted the orthodoxy? for that matter, does this not explain how they came to have influence throughout the world in ruling classes? my understanding is that of their kind, which dates back a lot further (and i'm pretty sure, they are the legacy of the nephilim) have been engaged in the business of corruption for a long time. they are also related to the phonecians, who famously had their capital city completely obliterated and almost every one of their people was slaughtered by the roman empire. understanding the history is very important. that modern, establishment judaism is not the real thing, and only small sects remain representing the real family of Jacob/Israel, and that those people are us. many many of the people with roots in either europe or the middle east are likely related to the real jews. it's also likely not for nothing why so many of the people calling out the evil going on in the world are inclined towards, mainly christianity. christianity itself was an insurrection against the jewish orthodoxy going way back. it's not just the khazars, that is just the most well known relatively modern instance of infiltration of the jewish orthodoxy and ruling classes. the racket that the money changers were running that jesus famously disrupted at passover prior to his arrest and execution, was from these same parasites, but in those times, they didn't identify as jewish orthodoxy. they were in a conspiracy with them already back then.