Being an atheist in your teens and 20s is a sign of healthy skepticism.
Continuing to be an atheist in your 30s and beyond is a sign of spiritual immaturity.
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Anything other than agnosticism is a sign of pretentiousness.
Nobody knows the secrets of the universe.
This is directionally true but we all become more conscious on different time scales. Some people will find this path later and some people stroll this path for longer. The only thing that matters is if you’re moving in the right direction.
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Shut up
So ridiculous. In your 20s you should think and question the adults. When you're an adult, ensure you're conforming to their social and religious thought.
No- you should always question why you believe a certain thing and you can either change that belief or stay consistent with it. Age has nothing to do with it.
I was a raging atheist in my 20s because I didn't believe in fairytales. I haven't started believing in fairytales cause now I'm in my 30s..I have though toned done the the level of belief I had in no God. I think being agnostic is more rational.
I don't care about spirits or fairytails.
God is verifiable. Look within.
Faith or religion?
Don't buy into a new age spirituality BS, it's just mental states we don't understand yet.
Well said ser. Followed.
Sam Harris lol. The man doesn’t believe we have free will. So why do anything at all?
No.
So true
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Also, the spirituality I endorse is not new age, but the most ancient kind there is.
Imagine telling other ppl what they should be doing
You needn’t think of God as an external, visual man in the sky. God lives within each of us. Look within your self, not out there in the sky.
people who have a problem with "visual man in the sky" are shallow rebellious fucking retards. who cares what they do...
No certainties, only faith 🫡
I like this post, even though I disagree with it.
Lots of screeching and gnashing of teeth from “stoics” in the comments.
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And I’ll leave it ambiguous, the part I disagree with.
Childish take
says who? The world would be better if people wouldn't push their beliefs towards others.
I agree, that is such.
I wanted to ease the tone.
It all depends on what your definition of "god" is, otherwise we're arguing about wildly different things, especially when the concept is one that people cannot look at nor touch.
Of course "god" can mean incredibly varying concepts to each person.
You and I probably have perfectly overlapping definitions for "dog", "hand", "cloud", "bitcoin" even.
God is something wholly different.
What is your definition of god?
There's a whole lot of stuff that I cannot touch, see or feel but I am sure it's there, just outside the reach of my own senses. I am talking about weird mystical stuff like hartmann nodes, the real meaning of the pyramids, rhabdomancy, probably even "ghosts" and the the thing that the anime Evangelion called LCL.
I do not worry myself with those things though because they do not come to me naturally, and the implications are huge for a human to understand. And I already have plenty of things I can personally intervene on, yet to explore.
I don't call the aforementioned things "god". They are just on a dimension of reality that I cannot perceive.
Tillich defines God as “the ground of all being.” This is my favorite definition, though “the supreme self,” “the self of the world,” “the consciousness collective,” and “the void” all resonate as well.
God is all that is and is not. I am that I am sums it up so elliptically!
Love, Energy and Consciousness, vibrations, the word, logic, the logos
You define god as all those things, at the same time, I reckon?
I would then translate it, in my own terms, as just "consciousness" alone, in its most wide meaning, including the consciousness of being conscious and whatever comes from it. But then why going the extra mile to involve such a complex and controversial concept as "god"?
Also see my other reply:
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Exo 3:14 KJV And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
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Gen 2:7 KJV And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
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I was thinking about this quite deeply yesterday.
Someone I know has been going through a rough patch in their marriage for a few years, and she mentioned that her husband is an atheist.
I came to the conclusion he is either not an atheist at all and just spiritually retarded, or he is a selfish cowardly POS.
I've know quite a few atheists, and they live every day to the full because the clock is ticking. They don't get married often, and they certainly don't waste the time they have in relationships that are hard (which why they rarely get married).
And they would also find it abhorrent to not only waste time like that, but also waste someone else's time like that even if that person believes there is an afterlife. Because that would be incredible selfish and really quite fucked up when you see it from their perspective.
All we have is the illusion of free will.
The universe is deterministic at the most fundamental levels that would make any difference.
So you might say we have no choice but to have free will.
Being ancient doesn't make something better, more accurate, or true.
yes, and a intellectual mid-wittery
I just learned something about my arc 🤝
If you’re not a democrat when you’re younger, you don’t have a heart.
If you’re not a republican when you’re older, you don’t have a head.
Elaborate why do you think that? @Alan ₿
Same
You're reminding me of this:
Matthew 12:24-27: “But the Pharisees hearing it, said: This man casteth not out the devils but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. And Jesus knowing their thoughts, said to them: Every kingdom divided against itself shall be made desolate: and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand. And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself: how then shall his kingdom stand? And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges.”
Do you think the Church founded by Jesus Christ, and still governed by Him, can lead people into the hands of Satan?
Being an atheist is only a sign of spiritual and intellectual immaturity, at all ages. It's like believing Bitcoin came from nothing, and created itself.
Can you explain to me why we can find the Greek term Ekkelesia Katholes in Acts 9:31? Also, what do you think of the presence of the First Council of the Catholic Church (Jerusalem I) in Acts 15, presided by the first Pope Peter, in ≈50AD?
Assuming you mean spiritual strictly in the religeous sense, in that you are guided by god, then this is self evident ( again, assuming you mean immature to refer to underdeveloped ) 🤷♂️
If you mean spirituality in a broader context, you would be wrong.
In that sense someone can be spiritual and not religeous, surely?
shower thoughts but bad
Are you a Christian?
I think you weren't a true Christian. A true Christian obeys to God, to Jesus Christ. If you're obeying to the Papacy or a Jesuit Superior General as if they were the supreme authority, there's a problem, since the supreme authority of the Catholic Church is Jesus Christ Himself, the Pope being only His Vicar on Earth.
St Matthew 16:18-19: “And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.”
What do you feel when reading this passage? Don't you feel that Jesus is talking about something real, “institutional” and not as a mere symbolism?
So, you're saying that Jesus, who created the Church and made Peter the First Pope, put His Church into the hands of Lucifer? Quite a strange thing to do for the One who casts out demons...
Apparently, the confused one is you. You're just mixing Christianity and paganism (Jupiter) 😄 This is total nonsense!
May I share with you the Psalm the Catholic Church sings every Sunday at Vespers, and each time we celebrate a new conversion and a new baptism? It speaks about the pagan idols like Jupiter:
Psalm 113:11-16: “But our God is in heaven: he hath done all things whatsoever he would.
The idols of the gentiles are silver and gold, the works of the hands of men.
They have mouths and speak not: they have eyes and see not.
They have ears and hear not: they have noses and smell not.
They have hands and feel not: they have feet and walk not: neither shall they cry out through their throat.
Let them that make them become like unto them: and all such as trust in them.”
It's clear, by your confusions, that you had never been a Christian. Maybe you believe in God? But which God?