THIS NOTE IS ONLY INITIALLY BEING PUBLISHED TO MY PERSONAL RELAY. NOSTRICHES WILL FIND IT AND SPREAD IT AROUND THE NETWORK. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. WHY? THIS IS HOW WE BEAT CENSORSHIP. THIS IS HOW WE WIN. DECENTRALIZATION POWERED BY THE OUTBOX MODEL.
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Congrats
GM, from wss://nos.lol
GM, from wss://a.nos.lol
@Derek Ross , can you explain the technical side? How does it work?
I only published this note to my private and personal relay. For you to see it, you must be using a client that supports the outbox model - at least initially. This means that your client looks at the relays that I'm using because your follow me and then looks at those relays to see if I published anything new there to display in your timeline. If you comment on or share that note, some clients will broadcast the original note to your relays. Both of these tactics help with decentralization and censorship resistance as my content, which was only originally sent to one server, be spread around the internet.
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Oh my God... In other words, you are boiling the oceans
any ideas to fight this mf’er? literally, spamming everything.
OUT
BOX
failed
Did not.
Block. Report. Eat a steak and drink a beer. Win.
Yes, we must boils the oceans to appease Posiden and his minions.
1, 2, 4, and 5 - done 🫡 thanks
@Derek Ross , thank you for your explanation. The technical process is very interesting. Does anyone know the size of the #nostr user base in the most authoritarian and censorious countries (such as China)?
wait, did you publish this twice? Is this why I saw the delete request earlier?
Anyway, not shared but broadcasted... again
Shh I had a typo and nuked it.
rigged!
It went through because of the all caps, no doubt. You cheated.
how can i make my own relay? 📝
Mute the phrase GM, from 'wss' and it goes away
Been reporting as spam and muting him all morning.
Cool ❤️🔥
Very cool, would love to see how to do this
I see it 👀
THIS NOTE IS ONLY INITIALLY BEING PUBLISHED TO MY PERSONAL RELAY. NOSTRICHES WILL FIND IT AND SPREAD IT AROUND THE NETWORK. IT'S BEAUTIFUL. WHY? THIS IS HOW WE BEAT CENSORSHIP. THIS IS HOW WE WIN. DECENTRALIZATION POWERED BY THE OUTBOX MODEL.
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This one is quite easy to set up:
You can even run it on your own raspberry pi if you get a static IP address from a VPN provider 😀
GitHub
GitHub - scsibug/nostr-rs-relay: Mirror of https://sr.ht/~gheartsfield/nostr-rs-relay/
Mirror of https://sr.ht/~gheartsfield/nostr-rs-relay/ - scsibug/nostr-rs-relay
Citrine?
#outbox 🔥🚨🐳
I've been wondering what the outbox design pattern is. Appreciate you taking the time to describe, but I'm struggling to see how this improves things as you’re talking about a potential n^2 problem with clients.
You are reading this reply from a relay on my phone
ALL CAPS.
FULL SEND.
LETS FUCKING GO.
🙈 i never saw this
i will try my best 😂😭
😂
Saw this and accidentally thought you were @ODELL with all that caps lock action going on.
💪🏾💯😍
Huge.
No, though that could be done too if I did the whole Tor relay configuration with it.
My relay runs Nostream.
I just used Amethyst to publish to my in house relay only.
First you gotta ask what you want your relay to do and who you want to access it.
😂😂 Sometimes I gotta speak extra clear.
It did!
@Derek Ross what kinds should I allow on my relay?
THIS IS THE WAY 🔥
It looks like ReplyGuy approves emphatically.
Vous êtes le seul il est partout sur les notes et c'est embêtant
Effectivement je le considérais comme un spam
spam dégoûtant
Does this only work if you are already popular and people already follow your own personal relay?
Asking a question here.
Wouldn't it work, if you had only your private relay, but the message was important/popular and you posted it somewhere people would notice? Like another big profile?
This note is bothering me because the spreading around part is not the outbox model - it’s actually the opposite. It’s the “old school” broadcast model.
Outbox would be everyone reading it just from your relay, not rebroadcasting it all over the place…
still getting a lady off the land.
so this is why I'd want to run a nostr relay on my umbrel? my note's visibility is affected by the quality of my relays?
Here's your note encoded in a QR code, so you can print it and send by fax machine.
Sweet. I saw that @awayslice was giving away sats for faxes. Thanks @Martti Malmi 🫂
But that's what happened though. Outbox users found it and interacted with it spreading it around via the old broadcast method.
It’s letting me call your note via iOS!!
Good ol' fax.
WTF 😂😂
Right - but it’s back to the same Fiatjaf experiment of months ago.
If the users didn’t rebroadcast it to large relays your reach would’ve been drastically impacted. Scaling via outbox requires the reach to happen without the rebroadcasting (so that all relays don’t end up storing all the same notes) so this feels like celebrating a fake win.
I understand and agree with you. I also know that only a few clients support outbox at this time. We need more of this.
I like this. Screw the outbox model, the broadcast model, and relay. Go straight to p2p!
Fax machine... sounds like Germany 😂
hahah I miss faxes
YES!
Can you stop yelling pls
Is there documentation for clients to support the outbox model?
Kind of. There are specs and there are blog posts and there are also existing implementations to review - but there isn’t a one size fits all solution, its more of a concept.
NIP-65: 
Mike Dillger’s post:
Hodlbod’s post: 
GitHub
nips/65.md at master · nostr-protocol/nips
Nostr Implementation Possibilities. Contribute to nostr-protocol/nips development by creating an account on GitHub.
mikedilger.com
hodlbod (npub1jl…jynqn) on Nostr
Long-form Content: nostr (What is the Outbox Model?) by hodlbod
What is the Outbox Model? -- seen on nos.lol, relay.nostr.band, christpill.nostr1.com, nproxy.kristapsk.lv, nostr.bitcoiner.social, a.nos.lol, henh...
WITH IMPORTANT MESSAGES, SPEAK CLEARLY
Thank you very much for this
🎯
Cool
Should use others things like monetized relays
I have to figure out how that all works.
Do most of the phone apps create a relay on device when you set them up?
Brilliant way to demonstrate this Derek
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Look at all the birds and bees
Mother Nature and Natural Beauty
Okay I’m back 🤣🤣🤣
Orcas can handle it especially
Weak sauce
They already submitted
Send in the others
Andrew Tate was easy kill shot
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What is the mechanism that makes the note to spread to other relays? Is the readers who repost it to other relays?
Nice.
The power of Nostr
very few clients have so far implemented OUTBOX right?
That’s correct