Some plans for 2026, if all goes well
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Sounds like the kind of thing Apple’s Lawyers Pile On and Bend You Over for
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Let’s gooooo!
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How will this work? Web based apps?
I can not comprehend how freedom consciousness people use Apple devices?
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Apple sucks
This sounds like a terrible waste of time and effort. Apple users do not want to be saved despite their cries. Their actions show you who they are.
It's a nuanced subject. Apple is superior to Google in some respects.
Self-signing unlimited amount of apps. And that's not counting what we'll charge on top. I guess we'll figure out 🙂
you can get shared developer certificate for $25 for lifetime, No KYC. The are many resellers and obviously it is not legal from Apple's perspective.
I have been using it for last 2 years to sideload cracked apps on iPhone
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That is interesting, I had no idea. Technically, we will only ask you to sign in with Apple. Where you get the account from is up to you.
No, native iOS apps.
Wrapped PWAs is something we'll also be working on next year.
The moat is so wide I can’t get back out
wen desktop? 👀
Isn't this only possible with a jailbreak?
The forced them to allow alternative app stores
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I switched back to Apple because of the poor geolocation support for navigation, and also the language support for Chinese, Japanese is horrible.
Also more emojis.
Speaking from experience with GrapheneOS.
I would never use a non Graphene OS android. I prefer Apple over Google.
This 100%
And GrapheneOS isn’t quite there yet for day to day use.
Banking apps don’t work all the time (unless everyone adopts #Bitcoin , it’s a necessary evil), support for Chinese or Japanese keyboards is either horrible or nonexistent, and geolocation for navigation is horrible (yes I try to navigate without it but it’s useful for unfamiliar places especially in cities like #Tokyo #Hongkong or #Bangkok )
They hate google more than Apple.
Graphene OS is not ready for day to day use yet.
This looks really interesting
Any traction so far? What as the genesis for creating this?
why do I need an Apple Developer account to use it?
You can if you really care about freedom.
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It is in some respects, yes.
But not in the freedom it gives you to do with your device whatever you want.
And we're talking about freedom here. Not about convenience or user experience. Freedom.
Then they care more about feelings than about freedom.
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We (on your behalf) would need to request Apple to sign certificates for installing any app onto your device. Regular/free accounts are useless as they are limited to 3 apps that expire after 7 days, not the case with a developer account.
There's demand for it (see AltStore who just raised $6M) and I think we can deliver a superior UX.
We'll keep this loophole approach as the base and attempt to leverage the Alternative Marketplaces feature in supported jurisdictions - EU, Japan and growing.
This is in ideation phase and needs to complete a proof of concept.
10 bucks a month for opening up the app experience, some people will find that cheap
I have no issues on Graphene with geo support and don't need chinese, agree it is clearly not as polished as iOS
Non-Graphene Android is also out of the question for me.
Awesome! Keep going!
Personally, it's Graphene first, iOS distant second. I would not use stock Android.
yes I would if banking apps actually worked properly (some don't like stock android which is a big no no for me). That and the ability to be able to search for stuff in Japanese and Chinese when in #HongKong or #Tokyo
Apple Pay + 2fiat.com works so nice too. Next time I'm in Japan I'll use it to fill my Suica card. All cashless but with #NoKYC
Fair enough 🫂
So... is the discovered loop-hole here with iOS is that paid subscribers to Apple would able to access Zapstore and download/install whatever native app, without zapstore being properly published on iOS?
If you mean not published on App Store that is correct, it's based on the AltStore Classic approach but re-engineered with different tradeoffs to deliver a better UX. Need to start work on the PoC
I've been daily driving it for over a year. It's truly great for all my needs.
I agree, it's a great daily driver.
I hear a lot of people mentioning bank apps... are those really necessary? I access bank stuff via web and use a plastic card if need be
My bank apps work fine on Graphene. I really only use them for depositing checks. You likely need to use the sandboxed google play services from an alt profile but they work. Most bank apps have more problems with you using a VPN than anything.
They are unless we have moved to a bitcoin standard.
In the ideal world a bitcoin and English standard
Also Air Tags and the network effect of them. They are useful for those who are nomadic/homeless
Not ready for day-to-day use? That's news to many regular users!
Apple Pay with a no kyc crypto card > Google Pay. Cards are stored on the device and not the cloud.
Better Asian language support. Can actually search for stuff in Chinese or Japanese.
Better emojis.
Better geolocation.
Actually functioning banking apps who don’t make me install stock android. I use cardless cash because I don’t get atm charges doing so.
AirTags to keep track of your stuff.
Seemless integration with macOS. I tried Linux many times and I wish it worked for me. Same with GrapheneOS on two different devices.
What works well for someone doesn’t work well for someone else.