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This really sucks. It's my understanding this is already the case in Pakistan. Possibly other countries.
Very scary and for me an immediate dealbreaker to travel anywhere that requires this.
at all entries? even if you sneak across the border by land or sea?
Blatant surveillance state. They don’t even bother to hide it
For me too. Luckily I go to Kenya before 2025.
That’s horrible!
Yes. I fear that’s the future in many countries.
The right to private property and privacy is an natural born unalienable right.
This means you have an unalienable right to exclude others from it.
Marxist hate private property because of your ability to exclude them access to it... This is why they push "Inclusion" so hard. This is the main goal of the "Inclusion" part of marxist DEI.
An unaliensbke right cannot be taken from you, not even byva 100% majority rule.
Do not comply.
Democracy robs freedom of choice from minorities and from individuals.
Democracy IS the oppressor.
Unalienable rights and individual free agency is the liberator.
Best to not bring a mobile phone then.
People need to learn how to destruct destructive processes. You do this by exaggerating their demand. Bring all old phones with you and declare all those IMEIs. Then only use WiFi with your tablet.
Wen in *Your* country?
Anita
From 2025 on visitors to Kenya must declare the IMEI of their phone at entry!! With this obligatory declaration Kenyan authorities can track everyone in realtime.
The IMEI is the unique identifier of your device, you can not change it. As soon as you use a SIM card / or eSim - these have their own unique IDs as well, which then are associated with your IMEI. This is a global standard.
Buy used phone with cash and get esim with bitcoin. And meshtastic for local communication.
TaxFarm is gonna do TaxFarm things to track their livestock.
The monopoly on violence is cruel slave master.
View quoted note →Used phone with cash is a good idea.
It's a coinjoin but with phones
Leave your phones at home!
Never goin to Kenya 🇰🇪🚫
It's in Indonesia for years they do for important tax of the phones. But applies only to local carriers only. The roaming/eSIM data plans still work
I still can't say "The Sentence".
View quoted note →"It’s a worrisome move brought about due to an overzealous tax regime that has caused taxes to make up 60-70% of the price of phones sold in Kenya." —
@Erik Hersman
View quoted note →This might be interesting to some people:
Nokia "Banana" jailbreak
Not sure that the obligation to declare phone IMEI will be applied to tourists. Still an onerous situation for Kenyan friends.
oh I wish this doesn't happen here and they don't track everybody that has ever used a SIM card associated with their name
wait, is it already happening?
It is probably a crime to change your IMEI in that nation, don't suggest solutions which will get peopke in trouble
There's a warning about that on top of the page. Everyone should decide for themselves what risks they want to take.
Complying with such laws can also get you in trouble.
This is wild. How can they possibly keep track of all that info??
It going to end well for them
NOT
Strong odds that they will use a centralized database that one day will be sold or stolen and dispersed across the internet.
Good. Might help crack down on human traffickers. Make the global deep state stop requiring malware in phones if you want a phone that doesn't track you.
They're being tracked by the global deep state either way. I assume their interests are at least more aligned with a more local deep state - assuming Kenya isn't just acting on behalf of the global deep state here; and I do make that assumption, because the global deep state can already track every phone and the identities associated with them.
I actually don’t care about who is tracking me, the global or local deep state and or surveillance capitalists. It’s wrong either way. And gets very dangerous in case it’s your local authoritarian.
Kenya is dangerous either way. I would bet this will be used to shield human rights more than violate them. Human traffickers are tough to deal with
I agree we should get the global deep state to make phones without tracking, but Kenya should deal with the world as it is, not only imagine how it should be.
