Incredible that this seems to be the only person picketing the Roman Storm trial. Protest for you rights! Draw signs! Yell at the Government! image

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null 6 months ago
Coin mixing is used primarily to spam the blockchain, obscure stolen funds, or enable morally reprehensible and illegal activity. You can argue it’s for “privacy” but yeah, it’s mostly used for that right now.
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null 6 months ago
Yeah are you trying to defend coin mixing? Do you think that shit is actually helping people right now or hurting them?
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null 6 months ago
I think you’re trying to defend it. I think you’re trying to justify it ideologically without looking at how it’s mostly used and what it enables.
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null 6 months ago
Stealing it and using tornado cash to hide it sure is.
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null 6 months ago
*passive aggressive rebuff and emoji*
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null 6 months ago
Not necessarily. Blackmail, extortion, social engineering scams, scam key generators, trojans and compromised devices, physically or digitally stolen wallets or seed phrases.
As a percentage, thats less than people losing their custodial funds. So by your own logic, its only for "stealing" custodial funds Also tc case has nothing to do with stealing funds, its about developers. Do you think that the maker or an ar15 should be accountable for someone shooting up a school with it?
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null 6 months ago
If you think tornado cash is an AR 15, you also have no idea how it works. So like, where in tornado cash has physical bullets, a barrel, a stock, a chamber, a trigger? My example is specific. Obfuscating stolen funds. Using whatever means available to do it. More often than not, I just see the same tired arguments over and over. People stretch logic when it suits them and ignore common sense when it doesn’t. The result we have is millions of people have been BURNED by bitcoin thanks to funds obfuscation. The victims don’t care what technically happened to achieve funds obfuscation, they care they were defrauded. Don’t expect them to get “orange pilled” anytime soon when word on the street is you have a chance of ruining your life by touching it.
Your analogy is shitty bc tc is a tool, not a company. The software was released and isnt controlable. The same way how and ar 15 or a hammer isnt meant to be used to murder people, it can be used to do that thing, and its not up to the manufacturer to control what a user does with it. Also, code is speech.
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null 6 months ago
If someone writes code to hack a nuclear power plant and causes it to meltdown, is that speech too?
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null 6 months ago
I’m talking about the person who wrote the code to meltdown the reactor. Not the person who executed the code. Is that speech yes or no.
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null 6 months ago
Not at all. You’re not answering the question because you know your argument doesn’t hold water.
Then explain how ypu would write code to do such a thing without violating the law. The code itself would be speech, but would put you in jail because it would be the confession of a crime(s).
Yup. There is no crime unless there is a victim. 'Concealing stolen funds' has no victims, the theft is the crime, softwwre allowing people to privately transact is not a crime.
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null 6 months ago
The victims of stolen funds are the people who had their funds stolen. That is who the victim is. Coin mixers don’t “allow people to transact,” they hide stolen funds. That is what it is used for. If you create code to meltdown a nuclear reactor or kill people in cars, you’re responsible to the victims. If you create money laundering software, you’re responsible to the victims. If you think you’re getting off on a technicality, wait for the pitchforks. You’re a human in meatspace and not immune to consequences doled out by enraged victims and their families. If you don’t want the state to do it in a civil fashion on their behalf, just wait and see. Swear to god you guys are complete morons.
Their a victim of theft. There is no victim after the initial crime. Imagine someone stole cash from you and then paid for their groceries with it. The grocery store isnt committing a crime bc they accept cash. Tornado Cash allows people transaction privately. That's why it exists.