So what's the issue here? Can I just send you an email with my real name in it, and if you publish it, I can call you an asshole?
Like, what? What binding agreement, moral or legal, does Will have to not publish anything he receives? Especially when previously stated that he publishes all takedown requests.
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I would never publish an e-mail, DM or fax, especially unredacted. These are clearly meant to be interpersonal or B2C or B2B interactions and were never intended for public consumption.
Also, the burden of descretion is higher on a corporation like Damus Inc., not lower. My feed is constantly full of people horrified by corporate data leaks and a general lack of respect for the care owed to other people's personal data. But when Will does it on purpose for the lulz, we're supposed to be like,
Well, that's okay. ๐
At any rate, Will can do whatever he likes, but he has seriously damaged his brand and the Nostr brand, risked his app store listing, hurt someone who has always supported Damus, and has probably broken civil, corporate, and criminal law in both Canada and in Germany.
He is doing this because he seems himself as The Next Elon, standing on top of the ruins of a database he nukes every 6 weeks, and fighting for the permanence of some idiotic troll's mental vomit. Because the protocol doesn't protect against censorship, only Will does.
Okay.
You shouldn't be asking why Will shouldn't do this. You should be asking why no one else would do this.
It is an expectation to not have PII published by another party. Doing so is at the very least rude and in other cases deadly.
Great Pontiff. Again, I have no expectation of privacy when sending personal information to a person, company, or otherwise. Regardless of the ramifications to said person or company, I would only be endangering my own anonymity.
Your personal annotations aside, protocols don't "do" anything. Social use is the "doing" part. If I run bitcoin on my local network, the protocol isn't "doing" anything. Nostr's social use determines what it protects or doesn't. Data availability is uncensorable only if YOU make sure to back up what you find important. Anonymity is only guaranteed if you don't doxx yourself to some corporate email.
But the last line is true, I DO wonder why no other relay operators seem to have the fortitude to publish takedown requests instead of silently removing users on their end.
I'll agree with rude only if the person is a trusted party. If an untrusted party, that is just foolishness on the part of the person giving out PII.
Sending an email will always be equal to sending a post card unless you use e2e using PGP or S/MIME. Everything else is just some legal policy or an expectation to rely on. Once you cross your own country's legal boundaries, it'll get difficult to enforce any of that so you're basically left with hoping that the recipient will treat your report the way you expect them to. Expecting any sort of privacy using a medium that's cleartext by design is an obvious mistake to make.
I get you're explicitly speaking from your perspective of a relay runner but it's been quite common for such requests to be shared with the party getting reported.
I've been following both Will and Grinder and I have nothing against any of them, so I'll just keep on doing so.
> He is doing this because he seems himself as The Next Elon [...]
You lost me here. Seems like you're using this opportunity to attack someone you don't seem to like all too much while signalling your own values that you consider to be superior.
Grinder could have stayed anon and had his attorney send the letter.
Government takedown requests should be spread far and wide.