I would never publish an e-mail, DM or fax, especially unredacted. These are clearly meant to be interpersonal or B2C or B2B interactions and were never intended for public consumption.
Also, the burden of descretion is higher on a corporation like Damus Inc., not lower. My feed is constantly full of people horrified by corporate data leaks and a general lack of respect for the care owed to other people's personal data. But when Will does it on purpose for the lulz, we're supposed to be like,
Well, that's okay. 😊
At any rate, Will can do whatever he likes, but he has seriously damaged his brand and the Nostr brand, risked his app store listing, hurt someone who has always supported Damus, and has probably broken civil, corporate, and criminal law in both Canada and in Germany.
He is doing this because he seems himself as The Next Elon, standing on top of the ruins of a database he nukes every 6 weeks, and fighting for the permanence of some idiotic troll's mental vomit. Because the protocol doesn't protect against censorship, only Will does.
Okay.
You shouldn't be asking why Will shouldn't do this. You should be asking why no one else would do this.
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Great Pontiff. Again, I have no expectation of privacy when sending personal information to a person, company, or otherwise. Regardless of the ramifications to said person or company, I would only be endangering my own anonymity.
Your personal annotations aside, protocols don't "do" anything. Social use is the "doing" part. If I run bitcoin on my local network, the protocol isn't "doing" anything. Nostr's social use determines what it protects or doesn't. Data availability is uncensorable only if YOU make sure to back up what you find important. Anonymity is only guaranteed if you don't doxx yourself to some corporate email.
But the last line is true, I DO wonder why no other relay operators seem to have the fortitude to publish takedown requests instead of silently removing users on their end.
Well said. After I did some digging on the whole situation, I decided to completely remove Damus relays from my network. I don't want to trust my data and information flow to a company run by a loose cannon who will dox people and call it 'censorship resistance'.
Sending an email will always be equal to sending a post card unless you use e2e using PGP or S/MIME. Everything else is just some legal policy or an expectation to rely on. Once you cross your own country's legal boundaries, it'll get difficult to enforce any of that so you're basically left with hoping that the recipient will treat your report the way you expect them to. Expecting any sort of privacy using a medium that's cleartext by design is an obvious mistake to make.
I get you're explicitly speaking from your perspective of a relay runner but it's been quite common for such requests to be shared with the party getting reported.
I've been following both Will and Grinder and I have nothing against any of them, so I'll just keep on doing so.
> He is doing this because he seems himself as The Next Elon [...]
You lost me here. Seems like you're using this opportunity to attack someone you don't seem to like all too much while signalling your own values that you consider to be superior.
Corporations like Damus Inc. should implement end-to-end encryption to protect user interactions, reducing the burden of discretion.
