Oh look, another loser mad about me posting memes V4V 🤦‍♂️😂 View quoted note →

I've had this argument before, and I believe it boils down to semantics. I, personally, believe that I have a V4V model. Others don't. I provide an actual product for Sats. Others, like @corndalorian, provide content, and want to earn Sats for the time spent creating that content. I'm not sure that there is a right or wrong answer there, depending on how you see it, according to how you interpret the definition of the words being used.

That's a valid point brother. That's why I make exceptional soap. 😁 I want everyone to want it! 💪

It’s not semantics tho. You sell a product for a price, where payment is sent and product is delivered. V4V content is posted without requiring a payment, with the understanding that some people who consume it will do so without providing any value in return, but also with the expectation that some of those who do get something out of it will return something of value to you. Money is the most potent way for them to do that, but it can be other things. This doesn’t mean selling a product for a price is bad/wrong, but they’re just two distinct ways of doing business. I could try to sell memes with a paywall, or subscription, but I have stuck to V4V instead. Clayton just has a stick up his ass because he can’t fathom people enjoying memes enough to zap them. And yet, people do. Maybe he’s jealous 🤷‍♂️

I'm going to agree to disagree with you. I'm not going to argue the point. I've done it in the past, with no clear cut resolve of what V4V means. I believe the term value means exactly that. Something you value. You, and I, create something of value. I demand it, for my products, and you hope to get it for what you produce. In my mind, it's still V4V, either way. That's my stance.

I value things I buy, yes. But that’s not “V4V”. I don’t care if you agree or not. But you’re wrong 🤷‍♂️

Make a meme explaining it then. I'm all eyes 👀

To me, V4V memes on noster are no different from what NPR, shareware, or a busker offers. You all just have products/services that don't require typical sales, distribution, pricing, or customer relationships compared to more stereotypical products and services 🤷‍♂️

Busking is a great meatspace example of V4V. I saw a local coffee shop offering “pay what you want” cups of coffee. That’s another similar idea. Distinctly different from requiring payment before delivery of said product/service.

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That's actually funny 🤣

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