β‘πΊπ² NEW - Trump announces revoking citizenships:
We're also going to revoke the citizenship of any naturalized immigrant, from Somalia or anywhere else, who is convicted of defrauding our citizens.
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Bring back the exile.
US citizenship subject to political whim of the day
Everyone alarmed yet?
This is a clear sign the Trump admin is not really trying to round up illegals and do mass deportation. Itβs estimated that America has 18-20 million illegals.
If that number is true, then it is a million times easier to deport illegals, than to strip citizenship from naturalized citizens.
This whole crackdown against Somalis in Minnesota is just political theater for Trump.
This was unthinkable circa 2000 - major governments would never leave a person stateless any more than urban crime gangs would leave a wall un-graffitied.
However much governments fought, and however many lies governments told, it was customary international law that everyone was property and had an owner to whom they could be returned if found straying. Consensus violators like Israel and Myanmar were shamed.
The "Rule Based Order" has brought down that consensus like a paper WTC.
Both horrors and perhaps opportunities await us in consequence...
"Political whim of the day"
You mean stealing the life blood of legitimate citizens? You mean that little thing? Literally stealing time and effort from people who pay into the tax system of this country?
These invaders would've been hanged in the street and people would've cheered not that long ago.
Some of us would prefer that option.
You're wrong.
How?
That's what I mean yes. If there is a crime there is a punishment but in civilized countries citizenship is a one-way street that can't be negotiated away.
8 U.S.C. Β§ 1451(a) β Revocation of Naturalization
βIt shall be the duty of the United States attorneys β¦ to institute proceedings β¦ for the purpose of revoking and setting aside the order admitting such person to citizenship and canceling the certificate of naturalization on the ground that such order and certificate of naturalization were illegally procured or were procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation.β
8 U.S.C. Β§ 1451(c)
Allows denaturalization following a criminal conviction under naturalization fraud statutes (see below).
18 U.S.C. Β§ 1425 β Procurement of Citizenship Unlawfully
This is the criminal companion statute.
Criminalizes knowingly procuring naturalization contrary to law, including by false statements.
8 U.S.C. Β§Β§ 1182 & 1424 β defining disqualifying conduct and affiliations
8 U.S.C. Β§ 1182(a)(3) β Security and terrorism grounds
8 U.S.C. Β§ 1182(a)(2) β Serious criminal conduct
All the Somalis are committing crimes or are here fraudulently. All of them. I don't care what you believe. There has been billions stolen from taxpayers. There is reason to believe they're terrorists.
Rounding up 20 million people wouldn't be easy. Revoking these people's citizenships will be.
Also 20m estimates are LOW. Very LOW. There are probably around a hundred million people in the United States that shouldn't be here.
Yes it can.
8 U.S.C. Β§ 1451(a) β Revocation of Naturalization
βIt shall be the duty of the United States attorneys β¦ to institute proceedings β¦ for the purpose of revoking and setting aside the order admitting such person to citizenship and canceling the certificate of naturalization on the ground that such order and certificate of naturalization were illegally procured or were procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation.β
8 U.S.C. Β§ 1451(c)
Allows denaturalization following a criminal conviction under naturalization fraud statutes (see below).
18 U.S.C. Β§ 1425 β Procurement of Citizenship Unlawfully
This is the criminal companion statute.
Criminalizes knowingly procuring naturalization contrary to law, including by false statements.
8 U.S.C. Β§Β§ 1182 & 1424 β defining disqualifying conduct and affiliations
8 U.S.C. Β§ 1182(a)(3) β Security and terrorism grounds
8 U.S.C. Β§ 1182(a)(2) β Serious criminal conduct
Even conservatives judges on the Supreme Court ruled against the government


8 U.S.C. Β§ 1182(a)(2) β Serious criminal conduct
You're all leaving.
Buddy this law applies to those who are not citizens yet.
An Alian is not an American citizen



I'm not your buddy retard.
You're leaving. You're lucky we don't just throw all you people in a big wood chipper that sprays your remains all over your shithole country.
I literally do not care what you think our laws are. You're a Somali retard.
Am the retarted ππππ
Ok pal maybe you should learn the laws of this country. Looks like you need to go back to school and learn the laws of this country.

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8 U.S. Code § 1451 - Revocation of naturalization
Another Self own ππππ
Youβre calling me a retard and then you go on to prove your own retardation πππ
Highlight where it says a persons citizenship can be revoked for crimes unrelated to how they got their citizenship.
The denaturalization laws refer to fraud committed as part of the naturalization process.
Defrauding the state through fake kindergartens isn't part of the naturalization process. The Somalis were probably all properly natuealized and committed fraud after.
Also remember I was talking about civilized countries ...
Also, watching Americans not being able to deal with their own kind is funny as fuck.
The dude posts the laws that clearly defines the process and thinks heβs proving his post π
His rage at his own ineptitude clouds his mind if there ever was one.
Yup. They're two separate issues and both are occurring.
Oh you're not American. I literally couldn't care less about anything you're saying.

Your level of arrogance is very humorous. I don't think you understand how much danger you're in.