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The hurdle for GrapheneOS support was always the hardware bar: a dedicated secure element, verified boot you can relock with a custom signing key, and years of timely security patches. Most Android phones fail that combination, which is why Pixels held exclusivity.
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ChadXMR 6 days ago
Does it have headphone jack tho? πŸ€”
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Nymwit 6 days ago
I guess no Moto for me 😞
Personally, I feel like all those fancy features are what's driving the price up β€” so I doubt this phone will ever be mainstream. To me, it seems destined to stay a niche product: made by tech nerds, for tech nerds, rather than us "regular folks" who simply want to reduce our digital footprints without reducing our savings. My guess is most people just want a "normal" phone: an okay camera, decent storage and GrapheneOS. That combination alone would send me straight to the store.
I don't need it now, but perhaps in 2 years when its price drops by half (or second hand) and I would still get 5 years of Android updates, it would make more sense.
In the past I had 2 Motorola phones and I was happy with them (I still have them). I am glad there is another option to Google, even when it is pricy at this moment. I believe that with time, the prices will drop eventually. I would rather pay bit more with only 5 years of updates just not to pay Google ever again.
drives me up the wall that no one is making bigger phones. 7.2" display on my oukitel wp60 and i very much enjoy that. also, everyone is getting rid of sd card/sim slots as well(like removable batteries)... unbelievable. if it keeps up this way, i doubt i'll buy another "new" phone. plus the new android versions suck. i remember complaining about marshmallow. now i miss it.
Steep price for a "premium" phone with lots of Motorola features that don't apply once GOS is installed, but still.
The Pixel 8a/9a answers what you want. Pixels still continue to be supported and 8th generations still have years of updates. I am putting a big emphasis on 'first' Motorola device here, there will be more devices that could open up in the future, including cheaper devices, but there's nothing to discuss yet.
Yes, exactly. There's nothing to discuss on that but the opportunity could arise. The processor in this device is one of the highest Qualcomm offers with a secure element and MTE. Hopefully this becomes a standard in future generations, which should open up device support massively -- including other companies beyond Google and Moto.
buy a secondary phone, install your android apps via zapstore, delete bloatware with canta, buy a good faraday bag... you are ahead of 99% of people on privacy... Or buy a used phone, install lineage os or similar.... or buy a cheap pixel phone with grapheneos support.
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