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Sorry but android is a fragmented ecosystem where all the apps only work if you have one of the "flagship" model phones… If you don’t pretty much nothing works lol At least iPhones come with better default security, privacy and a full functioning ecosystem…
I'm really impressed so far, it's almost like Amethyst lite. Keeps most the functionality but in a less convoluted way. I like the power user aspect of Amethyst but what Wisp does keep it's packaged in an simplified, intuitive way. It's familiar enough for me to not feel like a jarring client switch and more like slipping into a snappier version of something I already know. Great UI layout. The best part is I don't have to settle for one or the other. It has been a good two days Wisping around though. 🫑
Those of us laughing at iPhone users who laud so-called privacy and security are not using basic Android πŸ˜„
About the only assistance I need is if someone wanted to donate a high-end android phone to me… lol… but I’ll keep you in mind if one falls in my lap!
You can enable Play Services and install them and use them, but why bother using a DeGoogled phone at that point? I use the OsmAnd~ (OpenStreetMap Android) navigation app, which navigates great, but it doesn't look up addresses very well. To look up addresses on Graphene I use an app called GMaps WV, which sandboxes the browser version of Google Maps, from which I can send the coordinates to OsmAnd~. That keeps Google from tracking my every move through the Google's Nav App.
Agreed on avoiding google play services (iirc it's a semi-anon system?) I would say though, OSMAnd is terrible for me on an older device. Search basically doesn't work at all, I usually attempt to scroll the map till I find a place I recognze then drop a pin if I have to use it. Locks up often, navigation info disappears often, no alternate route user selection, an bad recalculation if at all when you miss an exit ramp. There are billion settings, so Id imagine some of these issues are fixable, but out of the box it's a terrible experience in comparison. The best option for local navigation i've used is HEREWeGo. It's online only, and also has issues with recalculations if you find yourself in rural areas often like me. Way better on battery though, navigation is first class, and search works similar to old GoogleMaps. You can actually search places like food and see open hours etc. Organic maps is fine for trails and stuff, but driving navigation is also nearly useless for similar reasons to OSMAnd.
OsmAnd navigates great now. The latest updates as of about a year ago improve the experience a lot. I even have it pulling Google Map's real-time traffic condition tiles so can see where traffic is backed up. If a house has its address entered into OpenStreetMap, OsmAnd tends to find it now, but most house addresses aren't in the database, so like I said, I use GMaps WV to look up addresses and then send the GPS coordinates to OsmAnd.
I still use it when I have to (areas without cell service), but for me the experience has been much worse in the past year to so. Maybe I should try removing it again and reinstalling it. How are you able to select alternate routes? That's a big deal for me. I need to be able to select a specific rout without having to trace the whole damn route out. I also find it's really sticky to that route. If I miss a turn it would rather have me go 20 miles out of the way to get back on the route, rather than route from the next exit for example or take back roads.
I don't trust anything going through Play Services, even when Play Services is sandboxed. Plus someone needs to use the alternatives one a daily basis to figure out how to get things done practically and give feedback on what needs to be improved. OsmAnd~ is a really good nav app.
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