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Value investing is over. They got wiped out. New advice—buy the mag 7 and nothing else. Ride the hype train with everyone else. Stonks, amirite.
I didn't conclude the same, graham puts a bit too much emphasis on tangible book, but software is intangible and arguably much more valuable (ie would your other own a car factory or YouTube?). These days for sure things are overvalued but I think there have been many instances where tech has a fair price. Also many other markets (Canada, Japan) have fairly priced securities imo
The markets in my town make sense, maybe because I know how hard the other people work to make it happen. Now, if you’re talking about stock markets….
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Bitcoin Mises 1 month ago
Markets are efficient at distributing scarce resources. They are the best at it, that is why we consider it efficient.
He calculates the fair value based on assets, P/E ratios, and other factors. It’s not really about tech vs other industries. It’s all overvalued and been that way for years because of inflation. Because people are using stocks as a store of value instead of investment.
Money printing is not the only factor, at long as the state keeps interfering with three market those things will keep happening
I remember reading books that used PE ratios. About 15 years ago, I came to the conclusion that this method didn't work anymore so I began looking for alternatives.
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Moist 1 month ago
markets work just fine. its retarded humans and the herd mentality thats the problem. that and greed for a quick profit. its the market that cirrects for that and idiots lose their shirt.
Yeah there's this weird thing where it's like the "real" economy, the stores near you, housing costs, etc, obey basically "supply and demand" and operate more or less efficiently.... But once you get to the top of the stock market, AI is just this big sucking black hole that sweeps in everything.
Sure, but it's much more limited without "the printer," because you're talking about purely private-credit-fueled bubbles...
You need commodities for efficient markets. That's why all companies try to avoid letting their product become a commodity.
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u32Luke 1 month ago
They're inefficient, but there is a massive prisoner's dillema that forces anyone under a certain size to go with the crowd. Which is why we need to build hashrate liquidity networks with bitcoin.
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u32Luke 1 month ago
Mike Green has some good work on the effect of index rebalancing events.
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u32Luke 1 month ago
I don't think anyone who's a moderate student of markets thinks this is normal or healthy
The market is broken because they pumped more liquidity into the system than possible for it to absorb. The reason P/E is a broken indicator is because companies perform stock buybacks to artificially increase short term performance to appease investors. Value investing unfortunately does not work in the current market since we are in state like before The Great Depression, Roaring 20s (Part 2). People are hyping up stocks like Tesla to gamble, and speculate, the market is irrational. But this is seen across various assets. Most stocks like Nvidia, etc. are slightly overvalued, so is Bitcoin, etc. Very few assets are fairly priced, and even less are undervalued. The market will never be truly rational as humans ourselves are not truly rational. image