One of the complexities in politics is that there are multiple decisions that seem useful in the short-term but erode long-term value. Being able to appreciate that long-term value and its various bulwarks is important for dealing with short-term things. The basic exercise is to imagine your least favorite politician. Any power you give to your favorite politician today has a decent chance of landing in the hands of your least favorite one eventually. Still want to hand that power over? Another classic example is the first amendment. Some hateful idiot is saying all sorts of bad things. The best answer is, “look, what he’s saying is awful, but we need to let him say those things and for people to counter-argument them rather than suppress them. If he is wrong, the long arc of debate will show that to be true. Because otherwise that power can one day be used against good things, too.” View quoted note →

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Shanethedog 5 months ago
Time preference. It’s all about time preference!
When the dems take over in 2026 and 2028, the WILD swing and fully opposite direction they will take things that (as an example empty out prisons with pardons/new voters) Trump did. But that’s what we voted for. Uni party bought and paid-for by israel and the AIPAC.
Why principled thought is so powerful. When you have the principles down, applying them to particulars doesn’t require any short term long term comparative analysis.
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jick 5 months ago
You nailed it Lyn
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Hoshi 5 months ago
what to say to people who believe that children would die in a free world were they might find porn, or that terrorists would destroy the world if they can stay anonymous, or that people might make money with kiddy porn?
You can be at peace with the fallen nature of man while still standing and speaking for truth. Can’t conflate “making peace” with accepting subjective/reletivistic “ethics”
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ihsotas 5 months ago
You say that the alternative is a system that destroys what is is to be human. Freedom is more important than any single law or moralization.
Agreed - within the context our modern, highly-centralized political forms. But this wouldn't have applied as clearly to small scale monarchies. Subsidiarity. Make decisions local again.
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FEW_BTC 5 months ago
gosh dang red and blue seals... daily getting reamed by the big red, white, and blue... #ripcarlin
The part that's hard is that we have to make peace with things we hate even though some of them DO harm others. Our right to self defense is fundamental. And innocent people die from guns/knives. Kids' rights to innocence is so important, and uncensored internet means that some will have their brains warped early on by what they see. I saw someone write a while ago - around when you had that exchange about covid - that free speech is horrible, but the alternative is worse.
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1776 5 months ago
This is why monarchies don’t degrade as fast as democracies. It’s the only system where the incentives of the leaders extend out beyond a 4 year term. And they are ever aware of the possibility of being deposed if they get too extractive of people’s time and energy.
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Janis 5 months ago
And then eventually the heir happens to be some dipshit. Not that the dipshit rules. Invisible power structures (IYKYK) emerge, and the King’s “master of stool” is suddenly the most prestigious job in the Kingdom. Eventually the actual rulers want to be recognised as such, and violence ensues. Look, there are no “good” systems. It’s a space of trade-offs where you pick your poison. Or, well, it’s only a democracy that lets you “pick” the poison. Arguably, the only real benefit a democracy provides is non-violent transfer of power. There are “democracies” where even this is not a given, and then yeah, a monarchy would be better, as the cycle of violence is longer.
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1776 5 months ago
Yep, with human nature and the ultimate competitions for resources that emerge, all systems eventually go to shit. The only question is how fast and how bloody. Our exceptionalism through history, our flourishing and our declines will always be cyclical. Never dreamed I’d be living through a fourth turning, but I’m here for it.
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Dow 5 months ago
It’s actually pretty simple. You have the freedom to stay home and protect yourself from an illness, but it isn’t your place to force that on to others that are not intruding or harming you.
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Dow 5 months ago
Long term impacts should always be prioritized over short term solutions… how do you think the central banking system and our politicians became the shit show they are today? View quoted note →
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curt finch 4 months ago
I grew up in central virginia, Jefferson country. Anything that's not libertarian seemed inconceivable to me until eventually I realized that Alexander Hamilton had won the argument. We have a giant federal government 'we the people' always vote for more free crap