Don't suggest a developer resign unless you're the one who will shoulder the load. And if any bitcoin developer is thinking of stepping down over the current drama, *please * reach out to me: I've been a FOSS dev full time for over 25 years and I've been there! I'm not going to judge, but I may have a useful perspective. ❤️

Replies (76)

No work is better than harmful work. If someone thinks a developer is harming a project they can and should voice their opinion.
There are many folks in the space that have a gap or two in their communication skills and that's often the root cause of the conflicts in my opinion. If someone is in such situation (on either side), pls chat with Rusty or I'm also happy to jump on a call and talk through it, maybe give some tips and tricks. I have been helping resolve conflicts between engineering teams for the last 12 years.
you are right on . I noticed that at a core developers conference. Some of them were horrible at verbal communication.
LibreHans's avatar
LibreHans 3 months ago
I’ve been running bitcoin infrastructure and using bitcoin as money since 2013, you’re a shitcoiner. Go play somewhere else
LibreHans's avatar
LibreHans 3 months ago
I’ve been doing that in my free time, unpaid, while you have been publicly begging for donations for your shitcoin development
hasky's avatar
hasky 3 months ago
That yesterday , today put “ cleaning “ on the list . 😁
La₿u₿u's avatar
La₿u₿u 3 months ago
I also hope any good core devs come to their senses and speak out against the implementations enabling spam and disabling user preferences. All other core devs are hostile actors and can go fuck themselves.
Baerson's avatar
Baerson 3 months ago
It's beyond coming to their senses now, that would just be a front.
MoriYuzaa's avatar
MoriYuzaa 3 months ago
Rusty can give inside perspective, and outside perspective is good too. There are war tactics being used against the Core Developers of Bitcoin, and the stakes are greater now than ever. Keep in mind the importance, and someday the thankless will be thankful.
I hugely appreciate what these developers have brought into the world without me paying them in any way. I'm impressed, inspired and humbled by their efforts. Like most noise on the internet, I am delighted to ignore your claimed opinion.
Baerson's avatar
Baerson 3 months ago
I suggest all developers that work on bitcoin for NGU reasons (or worse) should resign. I'll shoulder nothing for that one.
SatsAndSports's avatar
SatsAndSports 3 months ago
What's your point? You sound like a fan of Bitcoin Cash Now is your chance to stop random insults and conspiracies, and have an intelligent conversation. Are you willing to take part? I'm not an expert, but I think take part in a sane conversation What's the "shitcoin" that you are referring to?
SatsAndSports's avatar
SatsAndSports 3 months ago
You started it. You can't call someone a shitcoiner without clarifying which shitcoin you are referring to Are you saying that BTC is a shitcoin?
LibreHans's avatar
LibreHans 3 months ago
So you attacked me for something you don't understand. Seems like you entered here in bad faith.
Default avatar
Joe Dean 3 months ago
Cryptocurrency continues to shape the future of finance, with growing adoption, evolving technology, and increasing institutional interest. As the digital economy expands, now is a great time to start learning and investing wisely. If you're unsure where to begin or need expert guidance, reach out to Cassie M Jeffrey on Instagram, a trusted professional who can help you navigate the crypto space with confidence.
SatsAndSports's avatar
SatsAndSports 3 months ago
I know you think you're smart, playing these word games But you can't seriously expect to win followers to your cause by making a series a random vague insults If you want to win, you need to consider an audience of people who are technically expert but who aren't doomscrolling Twitter all day
LibreHans's avatar
LibreHans 3 months ago
I’m not here to get followers. Make those points to the abusive @calle
Don't forget the malware! Im sure it won't trigger any antivirus software...
LibreHans's avatar
LibreHans 3 months ago
I have supported bitcoin infrastructure longer than current devs are devs without you paying me in any way. I’m disgusted by their misguided efforts. If you want to ignore somebody, don’t reply to them 🤦🏻‍♂️
Cipherhoodlum's avatar
Cipherhoodlum 3 months ago
Bitcoin Core needs a time out. The developers may be technically brilliant, but they have lost ground with the broader community and the many people who have entrusted their life savings to Bitcoin. Bitcoin is money. Spam has no place on the timechain. Bitcoin Core must change course
Default avatar
adenglobal 3 months ago
We are looking for an investor who can loan our holding company 237,000 US dollars. With this money, we will open a farm in Baku, Azerbaijan to produce animal-based food. We will also make our own animal feed, so our products will be healthier, better quality, and cheaper. Because we sell quality products for less and have strong advertising, we will sell more worldwide and make big profits. Why Azerbaijan? Because animal farming makes a lot of money there, but few people do it. That’s why we will earn more by starting in Azerbaijan. Additionally, by producing our own animal feed, we will be able to sell healthier, higher quality animal products at a lower price. Since we can sell quality products cheaply and thanks to our strong advertising network, we will be able to sell more internationally and make huge profits. The reason for establishing the business in Azerbaijan is that animal husbandry is a very profitable business in Azerbaijan, but since there are very few people doing animal husbandry, establishing the farm in Azerbaijan will provide us with more income. Your profit: You will lend 237,000 US dollars to our holding company and when 22.03.2026 comes, you will receive your money back as 953,000 US dollars. Your earnings will be great. When 22.03.2026 comes, you will get your money back as 953.00 US dollars. You will lend 237,000 US dollars to our holding company and when 22.03.2026 comes, you will receive your money back as 953,000 US dollars. When 22.03.2026 comes, I will give you back your money in the amount of 953,000 US dollars. That means you will earn 716,000 US dollars profit in just 6 months. If you like this project and want to loan us money, message me on WhatsApp or Telegram for more details. If our project is suitable for you and you would like to lend money to our holding, send a message to my WhatsApp number or Telegram username below and I will give you detailed information. For detailed information and to lend money to our holding, send a message to my whatsapp number or telegram username below and I will give you detailed information. My WhatsApp phone number: +44 7842 572711 My telegram username: @adenholding
Default avatar
Torin 3 months ago
If I was against Bitcoin I would be clapping with glee and loving this feud! Divide to conquer! Oldest strategy
Core is pushing for unpopular changes to default policy and now they are crying because of backlash
would you mind sharing the reasons for core30? i would love to understand this better. i have read a lot about trusting the experts and i have seen ignorance, but knots usage being at almost 20% and growing - wouldnt that suggest educating the public might help stop this trend?
Yeah, no I won't shoulder. Any Bitcoin core developer who is there to destroy Bitcoin should definitely resign and never touch a computer in their life.
Dismissing it as manufactured eh? There's about a 45/55 split between Core 29 and Knots 28. Maybe time to reconsider whether pushing through changes people hate and lying about the rationale isn't the best idea?
Existential drama is unnecessary. Core is failing to sell their points and the prevailing state will always bee to do what’s secure (no change in the short term). There’s time for them to keep selling their points and vice versa. I still haven’t heard a strong pitch for anything specific and I’ve heard a lot of general whaling and arrogance from core. UTXO set bloat, L2 scaling challenges, protocol enhancements, or whatever…. What are the needs and benefits and why are they so important? Where are the best pitches for the op return expansion? You know, the ones that make it clear that it is more important than network security concerns. The one that have actually flipped some opinions? As an avid confirmation bias resister I’m super interested in these but so far I’m not convinced and I’m definitely not convinced any change is actually urgent. 👂👂👂
I want to share my experience with 𝐂𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐄. 𝐑𝐮𝐬𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐥👥What'sApp page +44 7480735379 . Get the edge in crypto trading chat, who has been an exceptional crypto trader. Her trading signals are incredibly accurate, and especially now with Bitcoin soaring, she has helped me generate significant profits. Catherine is honest, trustworthy, and truly committed to her clients’ success. She is not a scam or an imposter—she’s the real deal and genuinely cares about helping people. If you’re considering crypto trading, don’t miss this opportunity. Reach out to her on WhatsApp page and see for yourself!
I want to share my experience with 𝐂𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐄. 𝐑𝐮𝐬𝐬𝐞𝐥𝐥👥What'sApp page +44 7480735379 . Get the edge in crypto trading chat, who has been an exceptional crypto trader. Her trading signals are incredibly accurate, and especially now with Bitcoin soaring, she has helped me generate significant profits. Catherine is honest, trustworthy, and truly committed to her clients’ success. She is not a scam or an imposter—she’s the real deal and genuinely cares about helping people. If you’re considering crypto trading, don’t miss this opportunity. Reach out to her on WhatsApp page and see for yourself!
When you're an ignorant fool, watching wizards work their magic can be quite scary! You should probably avert your eyes unless you're willing to dig deep into the rabbit hole.
If you want developers to do your bidding, feel free to interview and hire ones you like. Otherwise, keep crying and accomplishing nothing.
MrTea's avatar
MrTea 3 months ago
Doesn’t matter the exact number. There’s been an obvious shift in sentiment from many node runners. The system is working as every node is a vote. Core seems to think they are entitled to do what they want without pushback. Should people be more respectful in the debate? Sure, but this is the internet after all
Yeah X is all bots Nodes are gamed Couldn’t be that a lot of people actually disagree with Core’s actions
they are gameable for both sides wich should still give a good enough measure.
It sounds like you are against Bitcoin? Imagine being dumb enough to think that centralising Bitcoin is beneficial to anyone that uses it. Why do you want to limit who can run a node?
Anyone pushing to allow spam on the blockchain knows that allowing spam will lead to child porn and malware. As we have already witnessed this play out with other blockchains and forks of Bitcoin. These bad actors trying to centralise Bitcoin should resign.
They want to shoulder the load: replacement is the goal. Why send your PRs to an open repo and have to deal with public review when you can push people to switch to a repo you control, with the ability to both block changes you disapprove of and force through changes you like? The technical and economic disagreements are a useful justification, but they're not the fundamental motivation.
That's a hard question. When you got into a nasty dispute in the kernel, it was usually with a peer who was at least credible in their field. This stuff is easier to ignore, but there's more of it.
jb55's avatar
jb55 _@jb55.com 3 months ago
definitely easy to ignore. Feels like it’s mostly just wasting lots of time in a space that already moves pretty slow. I wonder how many years of progress this has set us back. Also i can’t imagine this getting any better with more users
Create repo for the formal argument for/against. Barrier to entry filter and deduplication. Repeat contributor patterning as prima facie wall of shame.
Wait a year. This will be gone. Some will have learned something, most will have forgotten. Meanwhile, there is real work to be done.
No, really, this is a distraction. All drama, no content. But being tricked into doing something by a paper tiger is a real category of mistakes. I will ignore it, continue my work unaffected, and the world will slowly improve.