Any bitcoin InFlUeNcER blaming users for not rolling the dice is a fucking traitor. I hired a fucking consulting bitcoin company that recommended me cold card and never said to roll the fucking dice. So yeah fuck you

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Here's a video of your Ten31 boys recommending against dice rolls. Be mad at them. I know that migh be tough since you're a fan boy but it's whats required. Sacrificial lambs for the next bull run
It's a really old strategy, isn't it? "I have foreseen the misfortune, so join my church and pay my dues, for I am enlightened."
Yeah the “well duh you should have rolled dice but you were too lazy” is infuriating. I spent a week moving sats from old software wallets to coldcard. I would have spent an hour rolling dice if their guide advised me to do so. Instead it’s just written in some obscure tweet reply by NVK.
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Kingbee 3 days ago
Thank goodness and I understand.
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BTC-Satan yesterday
My Bitcoin was, is and will be 100,000,000X safer in my Swan and River accounts.$fbtc at Fidelity 1000x safer than that.
If we're gonna talk about dishonesty, let's talk about the dishonesty with yourself. Hero worship got us into this mess. Clinging to the hero worship here isn't gonna help. These guys fucked up royally. They let pride and greed cloud their judgment. And it's going to rightfully cost them. Not much more to say. There's your dishonesty. What did I say that's dishonest?
They totally fucked up. No question. Regarding my attitude: it doesn't take hero worship to recognize what I've learned from them and actually I think that since I never thought they were heroes, I don't actually feel particularly betrayed. I just think they're human and they fucked up. The dishonesty in your post is that Odell recommended dice rolls for years, watched as people didn't do enough rolls and lost their stack, and then started recommending against it. Was he right to do that? Nope. But did he start off telling people not to create their own entropy or did he discourage it for nefarious reasons? No. Pushing this clip without that context feels really shitty to me.
The point is that he at some point changed his stance and trusted the secure element that was misused. It's understandable but the full context is that OP asked for proof that people passed off "don't roll dice" as expert advice. That's undisputed. Don't cry to me for simply showing the receipts. I'm less unforgiving about this particular mistake and more so the fact that Odell and NVK sat on the board of OpenSats while NVK brazenly bullied and denied funding to competitors and blocked/ridiculed security auditors to block them from finding bugs exactly like this. Odell rode high from the status he got from being affiliated with NVK. Now Odell's gotta take the hit that comes with blindly trusting him. Feel how you want to feel. Those guys have been corrupt for a long time and this reckoning was a long time coming. I sincerely hope they and the space learn from this and learns how to properly vet products, cryptography and most importantly the social layer.
Ten31 will continue and grow. You will continue to be a bitter and obscure
I don't owe a 3 page explanation on everything I say. I showed a relevant clip and OP thanked me. Don't get mad at me because the hero you worship has egg on his face.
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BTC-Satan 4 hours ago
I have limited energy for all this complicated stuff.
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ThymeKeeper 3 hours ago
Fair enough, but they're just going to recreate the existing system of endless debt built on debt built on your Bitcoin. Then they'll collapse like in 2008, and you'll have nothing