Imagine you had to verify your social media profiles in order to get a bank account. This is what the world's biggest banks are proposing in order to combat the complete ineffectiveness of their own AML programs as found in a statement by the AML/CFT consortium Wolfsberg Group. Full story:

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Holy actual fuck.
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Imagine you had to verify your social media profiles in order to get a bank account. This is what the world's biggest banks are proposing in order to combat the complete ineffectiveness of their own AML programs as found in a statement by the AML/CFT consortium Wolfsberg Group. Full story:
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Shame social media is just a fad. But, soon you won't even be allowed to not use it, despite growing widespread disinterest lol.
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Imagine you had to verify your social media profiles in order to get a bank account. This is what the world's biggest banks are proposing in order to combat the complete ineffectiveness of their own AML programs as found in a statement by the AML/CFT consortium Wolfsberg Group. Full story:
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So the advice to the banking industry is: go easy on the useless AML shit; go hard on "whatever you think it takes" to actually lower risk. What could possibly go wrong? Quote from below: A "True Risk-Based Approach" to yield "higher value, quality outputs" and focus on "the usefulness of the information" monitoring programs generate is proposed in attempts to ensure that Financial Institutions "allocate resources toward mitigating crystallised risk rather than processing and documenting coverage against theoretical risk that has not been observed".
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Imagine you had to verify your social media profiles in order to get a bank account. This is what the world's biggest banks are proposing in order to combat the complete ineffectiveness of their own AML programs as found in a statement by the AML/CFT consortium Wolfsberg Group. Full story:
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Oh maybe it's my cache playing me here, last request went to alby. I'll see if I can get the cache invalidated..
i tried to zap the new ln address, didnt work either. I sent some sats to the geyser ln address (maybe just use that one in nostr? i like to zap on nostr cuz i think it helps for people to see others tipping for your work).
Imagine actually believing this is about money laundering.
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Imagine you had to verify your social media profiles in order to get a bank account. This is what the world's biggest banks are proposing in order to combat the complete ineffectiveness of their own AML programs as found in a statement by the AML/CFT consortium Wolfsberg Group. Full story:
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Zaikaboy 1 year ago
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Imagine you had to verify your social media profiles in order to get a bank account. This is what the world's biggest banks are proposing in order to combat the complete ineffectiveness of their own AML programs as found in a statement by the AML/CFT consortium Wolfsberg Group. Full story:
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That’s called muting you dope. You’re only hiding my posts from yourself. That’s not censoring me, it’s censoring yourself.
classic Germany, put a nice little gdpr notice on websites while trying to create a surveillance police state. if they banned children from getting pocket money in cash , it wouldn't even suprise me
Come on, really? You really have no idea what you’re talking about. It’s not even fun at this point. I’m just going to mute you. It’s like arguing with a child.
This is evil.
L0la L33tz's avatar L0la L33tz
Imagine you had to verify your social media profiles in order to get a bank account. This is what the world's biggest banks are proposing in order to combat the complete ineffectiveness of their own AML programs as found in a statement by the AML/CFT consortium Wolfsberg Group. Full story:
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StoicMaxi 1 year ago
This is the siren song of control: offering illusory security in exchange for absolute transparency. They claim to protect us, yet they are the very source of our vulnerability, beholden to their own self-interest.
His ass being tight contradicts ure earlier derogatory comment about his sexual preferences. I'm starting to think ure a dumb bot
That will always happen. The thing is that you can pick your preferred source of posts from literally anywhere. Unbounded choice of information and clients to access that data. Far more freedom than elsewhere.
The EU and the USA , that want full financial transparancy '"for security", have stolen the interest earned from Russian forex that they have frozen and will soon also steal that. Why would anyone sanr put any money in these jurisdictions ? They wont, and already sovereigns like Saudi are pulling their money out. The EU and USA are committing suicide. Good riddence.
Hi L0la, great article. As someone with a bit of familiarity of AML and IDV systems at financial institutions I can assure you that IP addresses and device IDs are already collected and used widely (mainly to attempt to detect fraud rings, although loads of false positives from people who share devices). Banks balance the privacy constraints of GDPR with the stronger demands of their financial regulators (who are indeed influenced by Wolfsberg and FATF).
Hi, thank you! Afaiu whats novel about their suggested approach is that they propose for this data to be fed into a ML algorithm shared across institutions (and likely jurisdictions) to build a β€žbehavioral mapβ€œ. Something like Palantirβ€˜s Gotham comes to mind, which has been penalized/ruled unconstitutional in several EU jurisdictions as it recycles data collected for specific purposes. If you ever want to talk, my DMs are open ;)
yeah... just scanned the article. thanks for writing it, L0la. not surprising to me. banking customers have to understand that their banker is obligated to surveill customer financial behavior and report anomalous and/or potentially criminal activities. use of ALL internally-available data to accomplish this set of tasks should be expected (to do less would leave the bank open to accusations of negligence). however, if your bank is monitoring your social media in any way, they've stopped being just a bank. at that point they've essentially become an intelligence agency that offers some banking services on the side. I recommend any/every retail and institutional consumer establish no less than three banking relationships at the national, regional, and credit union level. without this redundancy you're essentially trapped if you want to shut down an account based on poor treatment (or if the bank suddenly wants to shut you down). it may take some effort to establish what I'll call resiliency in your operating accounts. but the effort will be worth it should your bank execute a quick pivot on you, your industry, or your latest social media post. (this resiliency will also serve you well if you bank fails because they foolishly concentrated holdings in Treasuries or Commercial RE loans.) oh... and buy and self-custody bitcoin, too.
That's a really good point. I wonder if the state isn't already effectively outsourcing penal law to financial institutions – since the closure of an account is effectively a penalization, and in the case of AML without due recourse for the consumer – and what laws/legal exceptions would govern the export of government duties to private institutions.
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