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How exactly does this work? The update notes only say “new bluetooth mesh routing to save battery and extend range.” What is this mesh core bridge, and how can it possibly work over 400 km?
Just go to the UK and test it there …
Just wait until you discover that is possible to send text messages for free at a distance of 1500 km using a walkie talkie of 20 euros.
LoRa is incredibly weak in power and too much of an exotic device that often fails when more than 5 people are using in region. Plain radios will reach tens of kilometers and messages are upload/shared across the globe and space.
Look into APRS.
Yes! I love this. I thought-experiment wrote about this back in July, called it bitchatr (below). I saw the bitchat advantage in devices (already in our hands) and reticulum/meshtastic advantage in range. But, I lack the knowledge and skill to make it happen. I'm happy smart folks like you are making it manifest.
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the bitchat model is bad for activism, too ephemeral chat messages with no context, no identity, you can't really do any meaningful communication there
the samiz/noshtastic approach is much better
We're doing 400km and plenty of users. Definitely at least 10x more than 5 users.
Claude code provides the smart in this arrangement :). I provide time, Claude subscription and USB connected device
There is identity in bitchat.
And ephemeral has its advantage. Hard to prove who you are if identity is changing and there's no permanent record.
It's not for activism so much as emergency info. I wouldn't coordinate a revolution with it. Rather I'd want to share which parts of the city are not safe, etc.
first distribute to all VERIZON customers - CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME
dnot be a agency MULE
it only works in peacetime not in wartime when RF jammers are active
LoRa is very resilient against jamming. It is possible, but much harder than many other things (thanks to the chirp encoding, you can't just blast noise, it works with signal weaker than the noise floor).
Portugal lost electricity for about a day last year and that was when reality struck to many.
The frequency got congestionated. People won't just say hello or have the occasional chat. They'll be desperate and filling the bandwidth to exhaustion.
It is OK to try out LoRa, the limitations are just staggering when we really need comms.
anything non-permanent n low pwer is hard to detect - at the end anything RF can be JAMMED period esp during war time.
Working with Lilygo Lora32.
Need to reload 3 times before the bridge is visible in the mesh group of bitchat, but finally bridging ) Cool )
I 100% agree that reticulum is muuuuuch more work of art, starting from rnode and finishing with apps. I'm missing it every time I open MeshCore. Bitchat is also quite good - sleek and fast, but as to the MeshCore........ - this is a mess as of now, especially with the web app on mac, bugs on bugs on bugs... Though working somehow.
Have you witnessed the congestion in LoRa (on meshtastic? or?) in Portugal last year at the apagon day? Or this is just calculations?
As I remember people mostly just were listening to FM radio, but I'm not sure what was the real situation in 868mhz that day as I didn't have meshtastic installed.
The last paragraph makes you seem untrustworthy.
Calling Mossad sponsored terrorism a revolution is unhinged.
The Afghan migrants getting paid to riot and the Israeli Mossad terrorists shooting protesters and police and destroying infrastructure are not revolutionaries.
What you think about the Iranian regime is totally beside the point.
I'm living in Germany and wasn't there that day. This info was from the GNPA (Grupo Nacional de Preparação e Autosuficiência) when we had events together during summer.
They basically prepared for this in advance and on the day something happens, the network is congestionated around urban areas.
Later this year we'll present a more robust solution based on Wi-Fi/bluetooth and radio. Lessons learned.
sure, one can find a use case for anything
but nostr on top of bluetooth would have all those use features plus more
Thanks! Let 100 flowers bloom.
But the congested network was meshcore or meshtastic? I think at that time it should have been meshtastic and this is exactly the reason why everyone is migrating from there to meshcore right now.
It was indeed meshtastic and we don't need to have religious wars about which one to use.
What we are preparing should be compatible with the mesh core, meshtastic, LoRa APRS and geogram in a single device and tool.
Also, recent chinese boards made it even cheaper to combine everything (pic below) so we can use LoRa, bluetooth or WiFi and simply enjoy the best connection available at that time.
