Yes, we can definitely do only personal relays for every nostr user.
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Does this mean there's a potential for non-public posting (e.g. to a follower list)?
same for lightning
Yep
Great work, man. I know that's what you're doing. Ignore my shitposts 😂
Doesn't that require on chain wallets/addresses for each person?
yes, you are not free unless you own utxos
There are two ways to read this
Don’t tell @calle
too soon
I’m trying to figure out if this is trolling or super bullish…
Keys that control a UTXO are relatively orthogonal to personal freedom
I think we should still do on chain zaps.
utxos are the only thing of value you can truly own. everything else is serfdom
yup
You can't eat, drink, or breath a UTXO
I don’t know if you’re joking or not, but given your last screenshot showing 900+ relays, and some websites mentioning around 12k active userds (assuming both figures are a good representation of “relays” and “users” respectively), we’re getting close to 1 relay for every 10 users. This is amazing!
Of course, these stats could be heavily distorted... For all I know, utxo, fiatjaf, cloudfodder, someone and semisol could esch be running 200 relays.
How is Amethyst handling the whole 900-relays thing?
I was doing 2k+ websockets for arbitrage software in the past (don't ask), but it wasn't with json and ad hoc encryption like Nostr, plus I wasn't doing it on a mobile phone. So I'm genuinely curious.
This place is getting better every day!
It's not as bad as I though it would be. Android can take 6000 simultaneous connections. Then it's all about how fast we can process the incoming events. And since the outbox just brings the data from each author, it becomes quite lean.
That’s the way 💜
what are the odds that i was reading about this just today 🤔😹
valuable info 💜
Deriving Urbit from first principles.
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What happens when Nostr gets DDoSed?
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Just talking shit about the lack of UTXO ownership in Cashu. Great project though.
gotcha. Just fyi, UTXOs don't exist in lightning, Ark, and chains like ethereum either.
Every bitcoin meetup should have its own relay and blossom server.
TIL utxos don’t exist in lightning 😂 bro what
LN payments are pre-signed transactions on L2. UTXOs only exist on L1. Not gonna argue with you on semantics.
whatever fits your narrative!
Wasn’t gonna argue…
sure, great talking to you
arguing about semantics is left curve anyway. if you know how LN works, we probably agree on most things
I can see what you're doing, its just very misleading. you of course need to own a UTXO to create a funding transaction.
then you pivoted to "utxos don't exist on lightning" when were were talking about utxo ownership.
great straw man tactic to confuse people though.
zero motivation to convince you, I wasn’t even having a conversation with you in the first place. go fight with someone else.
whatever man, generally lying to people about tech is not a good look, you are starting to sound like a scammer.
it has been like this ever since cashu
calling them instant and “trustless”, misrepresenting their properties, replacement for LN, while proof-of-reserves was going to come soon
wow I really hurt your feelings when I said L2s don’t use UTXOs huh
what a warrior
lol i don't give a shit, it's your reputation not mine
its really offputting. I like the tech and I was thinking abou using it for things like poker chips, but I'm not a fan of liars and i'm getting huge shitcoin vibes from most cashu people i interact with. maybe I'll just stick to lightning dev.
never said those things except that it’s instant. go fight with someone else buddy.
any day now
When do you understand that I don’t care what you think of me?
I need to integrated my Luvstr dating app with my Alby hub ? Do you have experienced or maybe with cashu ? @jb55 what do you think ?
I signed everything I said here btw, just quote it
I have also told calle early on before this started, to change protocol design decisions. right now it is a hack on top of a hack which makes me unwilling to touch it
for example, instead of a general script system, there is a dedicated type for each use case, even though back in 2023 I told them this was a bad idea
nutzaps for example are inherently worse as well, either the receiver has to pay the cost of retrieving the sats from the sender’s mint (which can refuse) while saying they did a valid zap, or the sender has to swap between mints (why not just use LN?)
ah yeah I ran into the same issue trying to think about how I would implement ecash payment handling for lmzap
i still think it might be a nice option for privacy conscious services if the users only other option is custodial lightning.
its more of a burden for the merchant IMO due to the mint swap and finality issues.
I think a protocol for service credits handling that is designed only for that purpose is infinitely more valuable
Who cares about UTXO ownership in Cashu? It’s not like you’re going to use it for cold storage. It’s a niche technology whose uses are emergent. Use it for what it’s good for.
No UTXOs is precisely the point.
> Censorship resistant
> Freedom tech
> Offline payments