Actually kinda makes sense to me.

what is ridiculous? he's right. you can't do any use case in bitcoin, that's why there are soft and hard forks. it's permissionless about people because you don't have to ask permission to any one to use it.

Permissionlessness seems critical to me. Can you elaborate on why you think their viewpoint makes sense? Genuinely curious.

People are so deranged and confused about the spam issue they don’t even bother to think through what they’re getting upset about. It’s all so stupid and tiresome. View quoted note →

People are so dumb that describing very basically how bitcoin has always worked is considered an attack. Bitcoiners are very easy to manipulate, ironically

Maybe reading comprehension should also be important to you lmao

You confuse permissionless money with permissionless file hosting. Bitcoin validates monetary transactions - not arbitrary data storage. Your "permissionless" rhetoric serves as blinkers, obscuring the reality that without filters, every node operator becomes an unwilling host for permanent file storage, including illegal content and child exploitation material. Permissionlessness defends people transacting value; it does not mandate nodes subsidize unlimited use cases consuming disk and bandwidth. By conflating the two, you aren't defending censorship resistance - you're inviting the regulatory obliteration of Bitcoin as money. Keep the blinkers on. Watch Bitcoin become a file-sharing honeypot that authorities crush, while node operators are left holding the permanent, illegal baggage.

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Ahhh you got me so good

To answer my own question, permissionlessness is critical when using Bitcoin as money. On the other hand, we don’t want anyone changing the Bitcoin protocol without consensus (let alone permission).

I agree permissionless money is critical. How much extra on top of that should be permissionless?

That question gets to the crux of the debate. I think I figured it out for myself: View quoted note →

censoring content and protocol validity have two different objects.

Neal

I got distracted with a a side quest. 
But this message is important.

Please share and discuss with bitcoiners you care 
about.

Reading comprehension failure.

Luke is 100% correct. Bitcoin is permissionless *money*. For permissionless other stuff you'll need to find another blockchain. You should check out Ethereum. It aligns perfectly with your "everything is a valid use case" mindset.

Permissionless money not permissionless arbitrary data storage network.

say it back.