Which is more scarce?
A wine that takes 3 years to make.
A whiskey that takes 15.
Wine and whiskey are both low time preference beverages. More time in the barrel should mean more scarcity, but it doesn't.
Real scarcity can't be recreated.
The first step in winemaking is growing the grapes. That growing season sets the acidity, structure, and character for everything that follows. The winemaker's job is to shepherd those flavors to the bottle without losing what the land gave them.
Whiskey doesn't work that way. Distillation erases the growing season entirely, leaving a blank slate.
A 15-year whiskey is a craft object. A 2023 Pinot Noir from a high-elevation vineyard in western Colorado is a document of that specific year. You can make another whiskey. You cannot repeat the 2023 growing season.
That's why people get mystical about wine. You open a bottle from a specific place, a specific year, and that exact thing will never exist again.
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This is the kind of content that makes you stop and think.
Ser, this is terroirism
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View quoted note →Yeah, no.
Whiskey flavour depends not only on the grain, how it was ground and roasted, the yeast used to ferment it, and the temperature it was fermented at, but also the characteristics of the still it was distilled in. Companies expanding production or replacing still-heads go to great lengths to replicated the original, right down to dents from mishandling.
Cheap blended whiskeys are replaceable, of course, but so are cheap blended wines.
(I had a job in a building that was a former distillery, and I read way too much of the history of the place while standing around waiting for meetings lol)
The wisky is get you drunker
What about barrel whisky is kept in? What about different wood used for it and taste coming from it?
That, too.
Spanish oak FTW!
Yeah there is variation there, but blended over 100s of barrels per batch you end up with a pretty consistent product and the barrels aren't necessarily all from the same year
You could tell the difference in grain flavor from one farm to another and year to year before roasting or grinding?
Hatred comming from wine person!
Im vodka guy who should not drink so Im only judging as bystander :)
Me, probably not.
GCMS, definitely yes.
A whiskey aficionado with a budget I only dream of? Probably.
Indeed, the ultimate qualitative analysis should be are you pissed up though?
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Whiskey drinkers in disbelief.
So isn’t ‘real’ whiskey a single barrel?
That's just small scale
One in the comments disagrees
No hatred. I love whiskey
No that’s small batch. Tell me you can’t tell the difference between single barrel whiskeys with different mash bills and I’d say you haven’t tried enough whiskey.
Look I'm down to try you don't need to keep convincing me 😉🤤
All whiskey tastes like gasoline. Prove me wrong.
Next time we’re in the same town we can have a WW drink down! I’ll bring the whiskey, you bring the wine…it’s the only way to solve this problem.
Clearly, you were never taught the “proper way” to drink bourbon. Don’t worry, I can teach you.
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I’m not much a wine guy. Is there a large variance in the taste from year to year?
I’d love to learn otherwise. Yet to find a whisky, and I’ve tried a lot including expensive ones, that don’t taste like gasoline. Love me a whisky mixed drink - just not straight up.
I love peanut butter and whiskey and my wife got me Screwball. Tried one sip and it sat on the shelf for 4 years. Come to find out it’s THE BEST at making screwdrivers or mixed with cran-grape juice.
Price is usually expensive as the biggest difference between bourbon and *nearly* everything else is time.
It can be masked and is masked in most wines. I find the best wines to have variance
Had that too. We might c it with another raspberry drink, I forget what one, to make PB&J shots. They go down way too easily
Nearly won me a ‘drink’ competition amongst several families for a Friendsgiving drinking event.
Try it with OJ - I’ll never go back to vodka.
No just quality analysis…
I prefer wine.
Gotta get some PL
Cheers
It's interesting how grapes grown at different altitudes produces a different taste..
Absolutely
Oh, you’re an enabler!
