Regardless they’re both echo chambers with your questioning. The issue is that one echo chamber has been reinforced and culturally normalised for hundreds of years, whilst the other has just begun. Hence why we need to diversify the conversation and educate on further matters. Otherwise onboarding becomes impossible for normies.

i completely reject the premise of your statement. “We” don’t “need” to do anything. People can come of their own will, or not. it will be what it will be. You are free to do work to make it more to your liking to whatever extent you can

I’m not talking about free will bro, calm down. I don’t need to reply to your next reply either, I’m just telling you that this platform is undoubtedly an echo chamber that is stuck in stagnation.

😂 im calm, thanks

Someone understands. Free to be the change you want to see. Participate, build, mute, complain if one wants, build the communities one wants to see— or not. Permission not needed.

Hence why I’ve put a complaint in. Now… WHERES THE MANAGER OF NOSTR?! #nostr

you need to file all complaints with the ceo, @Derek Ross

good to have you in the echo chamber 🤝

I'm going to spawn a new sub agent and have it take all complaints.

New idea "The Nostr Karen Department"

conplainerBot. Lfg

It might be funny to have a bot that just complains about all of the things that are broken or don't work well 😬

plenty of content to train it on lmao

Paper straws shall be first on the agenda… eventually we will scale up towards the federal reserve.

sorry, we can't store that and porn. the civilization need to choose one

I knew it was coming to this and I knew we'd have to make a choice one day but I didn't realize that that day would be upon us so quickly.

obviously humans will choose porn if those are the options

Paper straws are only good if you suck down your drink quickly. Clearly Big Water is behind this.

Speaks to high time preference. End the Fed.

before plastics we had metal straws. I'm kidof fond of that. (there's also this heavy metal 🤘 poisoning thing, but who cares, old is good)

I want the echo chamber from Abbey Road under my shed.

There really is no concept of "we" or "need" when it comes to Nostr. It's an open protocol that people can either use or not, in pretty much any way they want. I actually agree diversity would likely increase adoption, but I'm not going to be the one to post a bunch of retarded slop to attract the average social media scroller, so I'm sort of at an impasse on this topic.

Founder*

This

haha, such a funny memory.

quality option from the echo chamber menu

my apologies - Founder. My local bot (my brain) incorrectly stored/recalled that data

I just want to see the place grow ultimately, that’s why I had my take, most met with backlash.

Back in my day we ate Lead chips too 🤪

I admit don't understsnd the reference (I'm czech) but back at the importsnt things: end the fed

Me too. I don't think it's backlash as much as it's a general dissatisfaction with being blamed for other people not seeing the value in a protocol that respects them. Like it isn't really on me to post anything other than what I find interesting. Mostly that's philosophy and cigars. I think Bitcoiners tend to be early adopters in general, so you naturally see us concentrated here. It'll probably be another ten years before we see the sort of arc we see with most new technologies (including Bitcoin, since that's part of this discussion). The nerds and philosophy types will adopt things like Nostr first and hopefully shape it to be really good when the normies come around. And I'm talking about the social use case here. Bitchat is an example of Nostr being used in another way with some pretty impressive adoption if the claims I've seen are true. We can't force people to value the thing and I don't think filling it with influencer type content is going to make it better. People can do that if they want, but most of us here now simply aren't interested in it. I hope you don't view this as a personal attack on you. I hear what you're saying and largely agree. I'm just not here to say other people should post different things. I try for things I'm interested in but that's all I (or you) can do.

I totally agree, this is partially what I was trying to explain, I’m just doing what I want, and what I want is to explain the situation I current see.

Fair enough, but I think it's the proposed solution more than the observation.

I was offering a solution, but an opinionated one based upon observation. I may be wrong, I may be right, regardless it’s got people heated and that’s good.

I think you're missing my point. Your opinion that other people need to do things differently than they currently do is wrong. Not maybe. It is. They don't need to, and there is no official 'we.' My npub is mine. Yours is yours. I don't need to post anything other than Bitcoin related things if I don't want to. It isn't my fault people don't spin up an npub or relay for completely unrelated topics. They can. You can. I can. But I don't need to. None of us need to. I don't think it's necessarily heated to reject your opinion that they need to do something they don't want or need to do. I can't speak for others, but this was the crux of my pushback.

No opinion is invalid on an open platform. The same way no transaction is void on the Bitcoin blockchain.

The phrase "Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?" is a long-standing cultural insult used to imply someone is unintelligent or is acting erratically. This stems from the historical reality that: Lead Poisoning: Before lead-based paints were banned for interior use, ingesting the sweet-tasting chips was a primary cause of lead poisoning in children. Health Effects: Lead poisoning causes severe and irreversible neurological damage, developmental issues, and even death. Pica: Eating non-food items like paint chips is a recognized eating disorder called pica, which is more common in young children and individuals with intellectual disabilities or nutritional deficiencies.

So when I say it’s an echo chamber, and things are reinforcing that, I mean it.

I didn't say your opinion was invalid. I said the statement was. Saying someone should do something is an opinion. Saying they need to is a statement of fact. I don't need to change anything. I don't need normies. So yes, your statement is invalid.

thanks

To be more clear, I don't need normies to adopt the Nostr protocol. I want them to for their own benefit if they think they'd benefit, but I don't need them to do that.

It’s a personal opinion of what I think people "need" to do, it’s guidance, not enforcement. Chill. Good day bro🤙

I need to chill simply because I reject your frame. Okay, bro 🤙