Stumbled across this interesting thread reg pensions in the UK. I'm 45, I suspect I'll never see a state pension. If I do, I'd have to work beyond 70. And there are women in the UK campaigning for the right to retire at 60. So they expect me to work for the next 25+ years to pay them to sit on their arses when I'll likely never be afforded the same degenerate luxury. So many leaches. Instead, I'll keep doing what I'm doing.
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GM Some pension experience for the younger plebs thinking of starting a private pension. My wife started a private pension 25 years ago. She paid in a fixed monthly amount matched by her employer. After 25 years it matured, my wife was given the option to re-invest, but being Bitcoiners, we decided to cash out to become self sovereign. If we include the matched employer contributions, the pension has lost money. However on just my wife’s contribution, it has made, after 24% capital gains tax, about 60% gain in total. However, as inflation has caused at least 50% loss of value over 25 years, then in absolute terms it has lost money. Next, pension companies, like banks don’t like giving you your money. Despite the payout date being the 15th April, we only received the money after a lot of hassle and threats of issuing a wind up order to the company. We received the money in the bank yesterday. What seemed like a significant amount of money to my wife when she started the pension has turned into a relatively insignificant payout today. We are putting two thirds of the payout into Bitcoin and will be using the remainder to pay bills and for my wife to treat herself to a spa day or something similar. This is the reality of the fiat world.
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Yup. I've completely given up on pensions (private or state) same with any inheritance or help from anyone in fact. I'm now sovereign and no-one will every have a hold over me again.
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Stumbled across this interesting thread reg pensions in the UK. I'm 45, I suspect I'll never see a state pension. If I do, I'd have to work beyond 70. And there are women in the UK campaigning for the right to retire at 60. So they expect me to work for the next 25+ years to pay them to sit on their arses when I'll likely never be afforded the same degenerate luxury. So many leaches. Instead, I'll keep doing what I'm doing. View quoted note →
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Boomers themselves outside of the public sector are working well beyond retirement already. No retirement is already here. These Boomers say , "oh I need something to keep me active" - my answer is, don't you have hobbies? As a GenXer, you have no chance of any meaningful pension, even though you have paid in a substantial amount to the Ponzi scheme. The pension scam isn't likely to end any time soon either, you don't ask a thief to please stop stealing from you, you take hard action against aggressors.
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Zaikaboy 7 months ago
I'm more than 10 years ahead of you and I don't think I'll see my state pension. My Fire Brigade pension has been eroded and moved. Hopefully I will get that in 2 years time? It is a complete ponzi. Opt out
I'm keeping on top of my own retirement plans - I'm semi retired as is, I only work part time for a charity, for a lot less than I could earn elsewhere. They have a decent looking pension scheme, I paid in over the last year and got the report, found out it's all invested in Blackrock and one of these 'green funds'. They actually managed to lose money over the year 😂
Millenial here (35), resigned myself to the fact I will never receive a pension despite ridiculous tax burden. I'm in that lucky spot where I get hit with a 60% tax rate (and lose access to all child care credits) so if I cancel my pension contributions I lose the employer contribution as well as more than half my contribution to taxes. Although I don't like paper Bitcoin I have just decided to throw it all in a SIPP and smash buy MSTR, hopefully it wont be seized and it'll be worth something in 20+ years when I start to draw it down. Despite being a high earner, the mortgage on a 1930s house outside of London is 2/3rds of my take home pay. Add council tax, bills, etc for 2 adults and 2 kids, we live a pretty modest life. Britain is completely broken, I have no idea how anyone my age on an average salary can afford to function.