This reply is more thoughtful and I appreciate the words of kindness. Some of your points are spot on, but some are still off, however. > Fostering a community that expresses value in zaps: Absolutely. Zaps are revolutionary. Anyone ignoring them is a fool. > Talking about zaps explicitly comes off as dicey: That’s a you problem, not a me problem. Your feelings and misinterpretations are not my responsibility. Monetizing digital content is a multi billion dollar industry, and nostr + bitcoin removes nearly all barriers imposed by centralized systems. Why should we pretend that this space is anything less than revolutionary for creators? Why should I act like zaps don’t exist, or that monetizing digital content isn’t a thing? It obviously is. Anyone offended by this is stupid. > All forms of engagement seem valuable in their own way: Not likes. They’re worthless. Replies, reposts, zaps, quotes, are all meaningful interactions in their own way, and I didn’t discourage them in this meme, nor have I ever discouraged them that I am aware of. Likes, however, provide zero benefit/value to creators and ought to have never been added to the protocol. If you want to show someone posting digital content on nostr that you appreciate their work, a zap is the most potent and “tangible” way of doing so, but of course other interactions have meaning too.

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When you say likes are worthless do you mean from a monetary standpoint or from a signal standpoint? Because likes also act as some sorts of signal on the post in question. A post with no interaction and a post with likes cant be compared. Sure it might be the least useful from the other options you raised. But does that make it worthless?

- online community is an illusion, maybe a delusion in some cases - human interaction online is unreal because it is not face to face and therefore not intimate - community as it is online is a synonym for tribalism get off your phone, computer and be in the world

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So, if I say "Hey, I made art, pay me money if you like it." It's not that you're wrong, it's that you come off as desperate. You don't need to tell people to pay you if they want to do it. I don't personally care if you come off as desperate, I was just acknowledging how that sounds. As far as "likes" go reactions are a way of gauging what the passive observer feels when seeing your post. Not useless, but simple information. It isn't a substitute for a zap or quote but I don't think it claimed to be. Anyway, hopefully this was just as nuanced and thoughtful.

Zaps don't grow my walet

I reject your rejection. Also, cool story bro. Have a good day.

At least you know you’re just a whiny narcissist now. You can ignore reality but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality. It ain’t all about you.

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And you sir are neither!

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An artist or content creator

Yeah it would be nice to replace likes with view count

There’s mental friction in deciding every time if I’m going to zap you 10 sats or 58 or 100 or 1000 and what does each one actually communicate If I decide once that supporting an artist to keep going is worth $1 per month and then the next time I think about it is when I go to cancel monthly subscriptions, we’ve reduced friction I can say I am pretty confident you, for example, would get more of my sats with a monthly thing than per post. I may be wrong but I would feel peace of mind knowing you were getting a consistent stream from me and maybe even seeing how much you made monthly to know how close you were to full time meming, etc Btw I’m not talking about anything paywalled (Szabo’s main criticism)

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