Release time! In our biggest update yet, we've completely redesigned the home screen, added a nostr-based profile setup walkthrough, and have finished our initial fedimint integrations by adding a federation discovery & recommendations! image Most lightning wallets these days are what we call "invoice-oriented." We want to go back to the basics to solve what people are really trying to do: paying a person. We've added a new wallet creation flow to make the wallet about you! image The new version of Mutiny now allows you to create a new nostr profile, or import a nostr private key from an existing profile. From there, you can now DM other mutiny & nostr users to send or request money directly from the app. No more copy / pasting invoices! image To double down on social, we've redesigned our home screen to put people first. We now include a row of recent profiles for quick access. We also now have tabs on the home screen for looking at your payment activity, your friend's zap activity on nostr, and your payment requests. Next up, better fedimint support! Mutiny has had beta support for the fedimint protocol for a couple of months now. Instead of opening a lightning channel on your first receive, with a minimum of 100k sats, you can get started on a fedimint with just a few sats. This new update adds a way to discover available fedimints to join. Naturally, the discovery process is powered by an open protocol built on nostr. You can see who recommends a federation, and add it with one click. image You'll automatically receive funds to that fedimint, as long as the amount is smaller than 200,000 sats, and you'll automatically spend out of that fedimint, with a fallback to your regular lightning balance. You can also swap from fedimint to your lightning balance at any time. Coming up shortly after this release, we'll be adding federated lightning addresses that lock incoming payments to your key, which you may redeem at any point by coming back online. We'll be rolling this out to Mutiny+ users first, stay tuned! Let us know what you think! We're excited about this new direction and need feedback to help us continue driving forward.

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Right now, you need to import one you already have. However, we'll soon be offering an LNAddress as well, just couldn't get it into this release.
So to import an existing Nostr profile you need set up a new wallet. Correct? How about esats? How do you convert them to sats? Where can I read more about this mechanism?
I deleted nostr account that was generated on mutiny behalf and it still shows this πŸ€” image
Your contacts stay imported but we can probably get rid of that if the account is deleted. Made the deleted feature last minute to appease apple.
For existing wallets, it might not walk through the flow but it's still there in the settings. For federation swaps, there's a new swap button when there's sats next to your fedimint balance.
We don't have deep links on iOS yet but when we do, we'll let the damus team to add it to their wallet selector. Thanks for the reminder about this, good feature request.
Congrats on the release πŸš… nothing stops this train I am surprised most Mutiny users are trying to make payments in person
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. 2 years ago
Progressive web app App in browser
Amazing! A great update. πŸ’œπŸ«‚πŸ«‘ Feedback: The first option of the default CHOOSE PAYMENT FORMAT is Unified. Lightning payment did not succeed. Maybe I did not operate it correctly? It is recommended that when creating the payment page, you can choose to display whether it is lightning payment or on-chain Bitcoin address payment.
So the goal of federations is to be able to start without lightning 100K initial transfer? Where can I read about federations and nostr?
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. 2 years ago
Federations give users better protection from single mint operators rugging users. Fedi is multi party custodial ecash. Cashu is single party custody ecash. Both interact with bitcoin via lightning. Lightning with nostr.
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. 2 years ago
Yes, Chaumian ecash is an old version of electronic ecash for dollars that didn't work out. "eCash", "eNuts", "eStats" are all slang for versions of chaumian blinded mints that now run on top of lightning. Fedi is one protocol, cashu is another, similar ideas, different trade offs. Send bitcoin to a mint via lightning, get issued a near perfect private bitcoin iou you can spend and send out of bound redeemable by the mint for sats.
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. 2 years ago
*Fedi in mutiny doesn't have LN address, so I use minibits which is cashu *Once big enough balance in cashu I can confirm iou's are good by sending out of mint over lightning to fedi on mutiny which is multi party custodial and has my nsec *Once fedi balance is say 200k sats then I would confirm fedi balance by opening a 200k channel on mutiny without my nsec, potentially connected to my own lightning node on my start9
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. 2 years ago
IF THIS GETS END TO END ENCRYPTED NOSTR CHAT πŸ‘€
Everything is very impressive, except for one thing. I sent a message to my other Nostr account, but it didn't receive it. Which relays does Mutiny use for Nostr messages?
Awesome. Dumb question, how do I swap better ln and federation? I can send to my federation from an external wallet but want to use my Mutiny balance.
There should be a swap icon next to your fedimint balance if there is one there. Right now it's just fedimint->LN swaps until we build a more comprehensive swap screen. You can use your fedimint balance just as a normal balance too though. Funds spend out of the fedimint balance first and then LN balance if it is not enough.
I just got a wave of happiness through my chest reading this! You guys are a beacon for everyone else on how to make p2p work. I’m super excited to see the fedimint integration and I can’t wait for it to be dead simple to onboard ppl to bitcoin via a few bucks worth of sats in a fedimint. Pushing the boundaries 🧑
Thank you Brad! Really appreciate those kind words. Building up to that ease of onboarding has always been a top goal and federations really help get us there. We have some further design mockups for better referral-like onboarding too.
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