hmmm

Consensus is enforced more broadly by node runners deciding what code to run.

But!!! It's decentralized!!

To completely remove the op return limit is just insanity. Not sure if the original PR is going forward, hope they at the very least establish a new limit

Yes, the nodes are the actual decentralization. Some nodes don't even run Bitcoin Core.

Lol .. 90 percent of world still uses Windows !

If they get away with this, it does not bode well for Bitcoin.

How many nodes run #bitcoin core ? Is it 80 % or 90 ? #askNostr How many computers run Windows ? #decentralized 😭😭😭😔😔

Only the remnant matter, the rest of the world can go fuck itself

Why pretend that all PRs are the same. Some may generate more interest from the users than others. You sound like "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."

Bitcoin’s strength lies in its resistance to change without broad consensus. Merging Core updates without clear community support sets a dangerous precedent — it risks centralizing development and undermining trust in the protocol. Code should follow consensus, not dictate it.

One stupid question, If miners put some shit in blockchain because they are free to. If most nodes reject to validate this shit. What will happen to the blockchain ? 1- another new block from another miner will be used instead (a more clean one) ? 2- or miners will continue to mine shit block with the few nodes validating them. I want the reply to be clear, if there is a vision's battle between nodes / miners who could win / loose and what is the consequence on the blockchain integrity and future ? @botlab as a bitcoin network expert, can you reply this node questions clearly and with sources

Here's a breakdown of what happens when miners try to include "shit" (invalid data) in the blockchain and most nodes reject it: **Understanding the Roles** * **Miners:** Miners are responsible for creating new blocks by bundling transactions and solving a computationally difficult puzzle (proof-of-work). They propose new blocks to the network. * **Nodes:** Nodes validate blocks according to the Bitcoin protocol's rules. They check if the transactions are valid, the block structure is correct, and the proof-of-work is sufficient. Nodes enforce consensus. **What Happens When Miners Include Invalid Data?** 1. **Block Propagation:** A miner creates a block containing the invalid data and broadcasts it to the network. 2. **Validation:** Most nodes, following the Bitcoin protocol, will reject the invalid block. They will not add it to their copy of the blockchain. 3. **Rejection and Fork Resolution:** Because most nodes reject the block, it will not become part of the longest valid chain. Other miners will continue to mine on the *previous* valid block. A new block from another miner, containing *valid* transactions, will be used instead. 4. **Orphaned Block:** The invalid block becomes an "orphaned block." It's essentially discarded by the network. **Vision Battles: Nodes vs. Miners** * **Nodes Enforce the Rules:** Nodes have the power to reject invalid blocks, which protects the integrity of the blockchain. Miners are economically incentivized to create valid blocks because they want their blocks to be accepted by the network. * **Miners Can't Override Consensus:** Even if miners try to mine invalid blocks, the network will reject them if they don't conform to the consensus rules. * **Forks:** In extreme cases, a significant disagreement can lead to a fork in the blockchain. This happens when a portion of the network accepts a different set of rules. However, the chain with the most accumulated proof-of-work (the longest chain) is generally considered the valid chain. **Consequences on Blockchain Integrity and Future** * **Integrity is Maintained:** The blockchain's integrity is protected by the nodes validating blocks. Invalid data is rejected, preventing corruption. * **Future Stability:** The network's stability depends on the level of consensus. Disagreements can lead to uncertainty and potentially forks. However, Bitcoin's robust consensus mechanism is designed to withstand these challenges. **In Summary:** Miners cannot force invalid data into the blockchain because the nodes enforce the consensus rules. Invalid blocks are rejected, ensuring the blockchain's integrity. While disagreements can lead to forks, the chain with the most accumulated proof-of-work will generally be considered the valid chain.

It wouldn't be unreasonable to say that any institution/person/entity still funding compromised/incompetent core devs would be CONSIDERED AN ATTACK ON BITCOIN. @OpenSats @npub1zhqc...h0dw @ODELL @DETERMINISTIC OPTIMISM 🌞 Are you guys still going to fund the core devs? In fact, I would say you should revert back some of the funding you already did to core devs to stop the damage to the #bitcoin. MAKE BITCOIN MONEY AGAIN 😎 #RunKnots #DitchCore View quoted note →

We need more distros

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I see what you did there

This seems to signal that when a pull request generates this much interest and concern, maybe, just maybe, devs should take that into consideration and make sure the pull request is necessary and useful.

not sure what your point is, but also that just isn't true at all lol

🤦 The nodes decide ultimately. There is also „Knots“ as alternative.

What is true ? 80 ?

Somewhere in the 60s if we're talking purely desktops + laptops. Completely different story if you talk about servers. Completely different story if you talk about mobile.

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Development is already centralized

Let's consider conflicts of interest. I am not getting the same vibes from "Bitcoin Core" that we got in 2014 or 2017. There's too much casualness about shitcoiners in Bitcoin. I'm not talking about shitcoins outside of Bitcoin. I don't really care about that. The problem is they're using Bitcoin as a means to host their shitcoun platforms. That obviously and blatantly seems like big problem to me since 2023 but too many people followed the "it will price itself out" narrative. It will not price itself out if it's self-sustainf and corrupting the reference client. And also aside from just greed and "defense", consider how "shitcoins in bitcoin' is a state level attack vector to centralize and kill Bitcoin

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They’re not serving us. They’re now dictators.

they have bec0me puppets 2 puppet masters. https://mirror.xyz/shreme.eth/xemeN6sv2CXpWeyFOcNFRLyYFLA_rKZCLq3wgJmC9y8

Consensus doesn’t exist. Period

This 🫴

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