gm. people will withdraw their onchain zaps onto their hardware wallet. and people will also use their hardware wallets to top up their zap wallets.
please don't do stupid shit like onchain zaps. we've been tirelessly to improve bitcoin privacy. don't fuck it all up now and link people's life savings with their public nostr profiles. please. π
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We can't stress this enough.
*working tirelessly π«‘
Sir yes sir π«‘
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GM! I agree itβs pretty stupid; but itβs also just math and people will do what people gonna do

Lots of warnings added, including when they copy their address to paste in other wallets. We currently do not support sending to any wallet, you can only send to other Nostr users as a zap.
What is the usecase for onchain zaps? Who is the target audience? I've not seen anyone speaking favourably about it
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Why shouldn't people withdraw directly to a Cashu mint? Isn't that the perfect use case / connection between these systems?
Why would happy customers complain? If we removed it they'd complain.
There are 24 people on nostr.
24 people have complained.
no way
I was undecided fyi
What about exposing a way to leverage atomic swaps like boltz to convert the onchain zaps to lightning zaps since you plan on restricting sending to other wallets?. Boltz provides apis to do this.
Whether to complain or not?
Too high?
It could be. But I need that API to be standardized, so we are not tied to Boltz itself. Anyone should be able to run a similar service.
If they're willing to withdraw to a Cashu mint, then they should accept the zaps via Cashu in the first place
Our goal isn't just to ensure that nerds have safe options, but that the default experience for relative noobs isn't a privacy shitshow
but doctor, on chain zaps are my life savings
Onchain zaps turn every public profile into a wallet clustering machine. Happy customers can be happy with a UX footgun right up until chain surveillance calls it a feature.
gm
It's gonna happen. Can't stop it. Can't stop unstoppable money and can't stop stupid people from doing stupid shit. Keep tilting at this particular windmill all you want, you can't stop it.
People complaining about something they don't build is normal. What is not normal is not being open to criticism and improve from it.
Monero is the answer. Always was.
Yours sincerley, a former Bitcoin maxi est. 2010.
gm. people will withdraw their onchain zaps onto their hardware wallet. and people will also use their hardware wallets to top up their zap wallets.
please don't do stupid shit like onchain zaps. we've been tirelessly to improve bitcoin privacy. don't fuck it all up now and link people's life savings with their public nostr profiles. please. π
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We need #cisa
No, that's also normal. If someone knows they built something shitty then they will try to avoid criticism in order ti avoid feeling bad about it. It's just the smart thing to do tbh.
Honestly, I have no idea what you talking about
If someone knows that what he created is shit, he doesn't respect himself on the first place, he's not intelligent either. Wisdom comes from acknowledging your errors and become better every day.
I enjoyed your blog post about onchain zaps
So [On-chain zaps] = [Bitcoin] - [usefulness and sovereignty] + [privacy risk]?
Will you also be adding a button to instantly share your nsec with another user? Just add lots of warnings.
Why donβt we just integrate Boltz and let people swap to Lightning
25th here. Quite absurd and dangerous feature, if you ask me. Unless youβre a FED. Then itβs great.
Dude even smart people make mistakes sometimes, and even people with self respect are insecure about their own mistakes sometimes. There's nothing wrong with either of those things.
Acknowledging and accepting errors is not how people become better. People become better by trying to distance themselves from their errors as much as possible and from trying to avoid reminders of those errors.
It's a very natural and important human instinct, and it's very effective too! Sure, if I was more humble then I could accept a future where I just keep making the same mistake over and over again and just internalize the idea that I make mistakes sometimes. But there's a very good reason humans don't think that way. Ego is how we grow.
We should have a social-media like app to dox the powerful. Not ourselves. π€£π€£π€£
But... The rodeo has been wild... π€£π€
Alex, as it stands you can't go from onchain to a cashu mint. Onchain has to be swapped to lightning or open a channel and then sent to a cashu mint.
It would be cool to see miners that havenβt been eaten by the AI operations to be liquidity providers for lightning by hoovering up small utxos/dust and giving you btc back via lightning. They would charge a high fee rate, but it would utilize the dust utxos that so many people have that are basically pointless to spend.
i would call that service "Dumpster Fire"
Lol, my mild OCD gives me an itch when I think of all that unspendable dust, consolidating it would make me feel good.
onchain zaps are a psyop
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