If this is successful and with enough users, this may be able cover damus dev and relay costs, supporting infrastructure, as well as prove a lightning+bitcoin-only business model that eschews the fiat system entirely. Should be interesting if it works.
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Working on a thing 🤗
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Rich 2 years ago
Yes please. I want an easy way to support Damus development and relay operations
I can’t imagine paying any amount of money to support a company run by a dictator-appeasing shitcoiner just for a worthless status symbol and a few extra features.
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Thomas 2 years ago
I don’t have high hopes that Apple will approve this. It could even be grounds to ban your Apple dev account completely and have Damus removed from the App Store. I would advise against adding this until the day Apple is forced to allow app side-loading.
They banned us in china but ppl there can still use #nostr somehow. So we can’t stop out of fear of being turned down or stopped. 🚀can’t stop won’t stop!
I would like to see this implemented in all clients. This allows for client developers to be paid for their work and infrastructure. When people spread FUD about Nostr, one issue is always common - sustainability. It's not a secret that current models aren't sustainable long term. This helps defeat that FUD by making clients sustainable. 🔥 View quoted note →
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nobody 2 years ago
Hey #[3]​ I was the 500th person to rate Damus on the Apple App Store! I rated it ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
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nobody 2 years ago
#Lichess does something similar to this and it has proven to be quite successful. It’s a great way to receive support for hosting without making the app pay-to-play or riddled with ads.
This can work, and being able to sustain the platform and development is indeed valuable. I just joined this ecosystem, I like this protocol, it’s tech, and it’s purpose; will see what I can contribute.
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Thomas 2 years ago
Nostr can’t be banned but Apple Can and will pull Damus from the App Store.
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Thomas 2 years ago
This is for sending money to a user of the app and not the app’s developer. Apple will not let a dev accept payments to themselves via lightning. In app purchases only.
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nobody 2 years ago
what's the practical goal?
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Thomas 2 years ago
I don’t know the specific rule and I don’t have time to go find it. But I’ve been an iOS dev for 10 years and I’ve tried doing shady stuff and they always reject it. Apple needs to let us install whatever software we want on these devices that cost $1000+! I think we can agree on that. I hate the App Store policies.
Just over 10 years here too 🙌 I agree that App Review sucks, but I think Will can go with this and not risk getting thrown out. There’s a good amount of room for making the case, and their policies do evolve — abeit at a glacial pace. You have a good chance of being right about getting rejected, if not immediately then at some arbitrary future point. As long as it’s reversible, the right thing to do is to try, as that helps effect policy change or at least clarification.
It’s like an ingame currency to them… why would they care? It’s not like I’m selling anything in app. Its all free.
The fact that you didn’t need to explain that to a reviewer is the surprise to me. Like, they’re aware of Bitcoin and the review guidelines are full of ‘supported currency’ language. They know it’s not exactly like VBucks because it’s actually connected relatively well to the banking system. I think that would matter but maybe not 🤷 The other thing that can be tricky is what constitutes unlocking content or features. E.g. if you use Lightning, do you get a badge of some sort, and if so, is that a feature or content unlock? Anyway, good that you have had a smooth journey and it hopefully bodes well 🤞
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Thomas 2 years ago
Sorry for being so negative about this feature. I just don’t trust Apple. Keep up the great work man and let me know if you ever have any iOS dev questions.