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fiatjaf _@fiatjaf.com 1 year ago
I have just started running @npub1z4d4...j7rz and timestamping all events published to pyramid.fiatjaf.com with NIP-03 (OpenTimestamps). The timestamp events, kind 1040, are published to @npub18kzz...x5sz's cellar.nostr.wine which is not going to delete them -- and to some other relays. Somehow this will protect the humanity against the AI takeover in the future, so I recommend other people to do the same with other events. The source code is at https://git.fiatjaf.com/ots_nbot and you can customize the relays, kinds and authors it tries to timestamp, among other things, via environment variables. If you don't understand how such a simple gesture has such immense powers, listen to Antihashed Podcast episode where this is explained, or ask @Constant.

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Peter Todd pete@petertodd.org 1 year ago
To be pedantic, I'm not personally paying for OpenTimestamps transaction fees. There's a community fundraiser for that:
Geyser | Bitcoin Crowdfunding Platform
A Bitcoin crowdfunding platform where creators raise funds for causes, sell products, manage campaigns, and engage with their community.
 and the calendars themselves accept funds directly to their wallets. Last time I pushed for donations was in January, and I got enough donations to last until now (most donations, by value, were not sent through geyser). I'll probably run out of donated funds again in another 2-4 months. FWIW I share the funds donated to my calendars (and through geyser) with the other calendars.
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Peter Todd pete@petertodd.org 1 year ago
In theory... In practice the calendars themselves aren't horizontally scalable, so with enough load they'll fail. We're not at that point yet. But a DoS attack would do it. This can be fixed with improved code. But I haven't been able to find any funding to spend the time to actually fix this. I gotta pay rent after all...
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Rand 1 year ago
yes, familiar w/Guat. i was thinking imput 4 wider adoption. t-y
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Derek Ross derekross@grownostr.org 1 year ago
This is how we beat the T-9000.
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I have just started running @npub1z4d4...j7rz and timestamping all events published to pyramid.fiatjaf.com with NIP-03 (OpenTimestamps). The timestamp events, kind 1040, are published to @npub18kzz...x5sz's cellar.nostr.wine which is not going to delete them -- and to some other relays. Somehow this will protect the humanity against the AI takeover in the future, so I recommend other people to do the same with other events. The source code is at https://git.fiatjaf.com/ots_nbot and you can customize the relays, kinds and authors it tries to timestamp, among other things, via environment variables. If you don't understand how such a simple gesture has such immense powers, listen to Antihashed Podcast episode where this is explained, or ask @Constant.
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npub1wl0s...q59t 1 year ago
how often do the calendars publish on chain? Is there a way to track those transactions on a website like mempool.space?
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VictorieeMan VictorieeMan@victoriee.com 1 year ago
interesting
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I have just started running @npub1z4d4...j7rz and timestamping all events published to pyramid.fiatjaf.com with NIP-03 (OpenTimestamps). The timestamp events, kind 1040, are published to @npub18kzz...x5sz's cellar.nostr.wine which is not going to delete them -- and to some other relays. Somehow this will protect the humanity against the AI takeover in the future, so I recommend other people to do the same with other events. The source code is at https://git.fiatjaf.com/ots_nbot and you can customize the relays, kinds and authors it tries to timestamp, among other things, via environment variables. If you don't understand how such a simple gesture has such immense powers, listen to Antihashed Podcast episode where this is explained, or ask @Constant.
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fiatjaf _@fiatjaf.com 1 year ago
14 hours later, 229 timestamps published, 76 pending, now alternating between the 4 public calendar servers to alleviate the (enormous) load. One thing I don't get is how I can send 2 ids for timestamping at the same time and one goes in the next batch, the other only on the following batch many hours later.
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npub1wl0s...q59t 1 year ago
Thanks. Open timestamps is a fascinating project. I noticed that the transactions are using Segwit. Would there be any significant savings by switching to Taproot?
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Constant Constant@techno-ethica.com 1 year ago
TLDR: If you demand timestamps, it forces a lie to be made up in advance and cant be made after the fact. This gives truth a defensive advantage. If you dont understand what that means, dont ask for tldr's in the future.
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