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jb55 _@jb55.com 11 months ago
NWC is easier for connecting your own node and doing self custody. If we are giving up on self custody then sure cashu is better. I am not gonna give though and I am surprised so many bitcoiners on nostr are like this. What happened to not your keys not your coins. We should be building better self custody tech, not tech that is optimizing for custody.
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Alex Gleason alex@gleasonator.dev 11 months ago
I'm only following peer pressure. Truthfully I think the best solution would be to do away with Lightning and integrate Bitcoin natively. Everyone I've told about this seems to think it's a bad idea. But you know what, I don't want you to zap me 2 cents, I want you to zap me $5, so I think this would actually solve everything.
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crimsonleaf363 _@crimsonleaf363.com 11 months ago
Building Cashu isn't giving up on self custody.
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NWC is easier for connecting your own node and doing self custody. If we are giving up on self custody then sure cashu is better. I am not gonna give though and I am surprised so many bitcoiners on nostr are like this. What happened to not your keys not your coins. We should be building better self custody tech, not tech that is optimizing for custody.
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Creature 11 months ago
I don't plan to keep large sums of money in my zap wallet. I'll just keep a few bucks there to zap ppl. Not worth the inconvenience of running my own node. Especially when the likelihood of my... (Looks it up) $4.81 being stolen is pretty low.
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wencke 11 months ago
i tried cashu to see all the hype, and gotta say that as a normie i find it easier to do NWC and connecting my own node and doing self custody. but i do think the idea of cashu is interesting but i totally agree with about self custody
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AU9913 auggie@nakaMOtown.com 11 months ago
Its so perfect that his node went down while he's arguing against people using ecash wallets for their zaps
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NWC is easier for connecting your own node and doing self custody. If we are giving up on self custody then sure cashu is better. I am not gonna give though and I am surprised so many bitcoiners on nostr are like this. What happened to not your keys not your coins. We should be building better self custody tech, not tech that is optimizing for custody.
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. 11 months ago
It is hybrid in that you hold the bearer cashu token on the device, but the mint LN node must allow the melting of the token to LN sats.
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Ge 11 months ago
I too agree with this 👌 just send bitcoin....E cash we get it u want privacy...get bolt 12 then...or coinos wallet that has it integrated boom privacy no need for cashu.
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nout nout@stacker.news 11 months ago
Agreed, I'm surprised by the push for cashu. Cashu may add nicer onboarding into lightning, but we need better self custody experiences. Imo we are one leap away from having it. Phoenix connects to a single LSP and is locked to the LSP. If there would be an intuitive way to migrate the channel to another LSP in the case Acinq goes down, then we have a fully self custodial lightning with great experience.
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StevenB 11 months ago
Grifters don’t care about things like self custody, they care about things like ease of use. The easier it is to use, the more people come in, the more people that come in, the more zaps the influencers get for selling their grift. If someone is willing to compromise their principles for ease of use, then you know what their principles are.
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Walt Munny waltmunny@getalby.com 11 months ago
This reminded me that I had given up on the last important thing with Minibits for zaps. Nudged me to try @Alby and it is by far the easiest lightning node to setup, and it includes all the goodies for nostr and LNURL. Convenience is no longer an excuse 🫡
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jb55's avatar jb55
NWC is easier for connecting your own node and doing self custody. If we are giving up on self custody then sure cashu is better. I am not gonna give though and I am surprised so many bitcoiners on nostr are like this. What happened to not your keys not your coins. We should be building better self custody tech, not tech that is optimizing for custody.
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