What, in your view, is the number one reason Nostr user growth has stalled out?
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Its tough to make meaningful connections on the platform. If I want to chat with someone more than surface level I have to ask for their simplex or email. Otherwise nostr gaslights me into thinking I never posted or replied and all conversations were a dream since it disappeared into the aether.
All the cool people are already here.
A lot of is are not technical.
For myself, I don't understand which relays I am or should be connected to, each client has a wallet and Alby just sucks, DMs aren't as private as normie land.....
Its a learning curve, for sure.
But I'm finding it worth it to stick around.
People want to be told what their outrage should be.
Bitcoin cultists
Bot charts
No one knows about it. No new leads.
Even those have mostly left 🤣
Then maybe nostr can start to heal now 🤔
The corporate algos are definitely addicting
😂🫡
What keeps you around? Just curious. Some of the apps have definitely gotten better/easier since a couple years ago, but there is a learning curve for sure.
Many of the apps do require at least a “power user” level of commitment from users 😂
Yea. Discovery isn’t nonexistent but it isn’t great. And the fact there just isn’t much content in the first place probably doesn’t help 😂
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What do you think would encourage more variety of content/discussion?
It’s not addicting. It’s like competing with cocaine
What gets me though is how many of the people who do know about it, and even championed it, have left.
Is that good or bad? 😅😅
Who cares
It works for me
Maybe it will take time or ID laws or something
I care 🤷♂️😂
Digital sovereignty is the major driver, for me.
This seems like the 'wild west', like I'm part of something cool (my naivety showing lol).
Conversation is much more open here and it's genuinely fun.
Dunbar's number.
At the moment there people holding the protocol together as a single community. Newcomers either join the community or post into the void until they give up.
We need to focus on educating community leaders that nostr is a tool that empowers them, and developing the tools to do that in a way that doesn't have the security flaw of corporate platforms harvesting their data and having power over them.
Let nostr grow as thousands of communities.
Most humans have no clue what social media is without the excess dopamine.
Zaps are our flagship feature but it’s not enough.
curious, what would make it enough? is it just too late to replace social media with social networking?
i know i'm in the minority but i wrote my own client precisely to be not provide the dopamine hit so curious on your thoughts.
maybe at the root of this is: LACK OF CONVICTION. So many projects get past the fun initial stage and get into the “make it a robust product” stage and it seems like people are running away to half-ass MVP the next bouncing ball instead of focusing and following through
They don’t know how to walk the line of a true Corndalorian. This is the way ⚡️
Sorry now the real response: I think for a lot of people it’s easier and more addicting to just consume. Nostr involves a lot of initiative so the user can connect with people around the globe. It’s beautiful, but for my generation usually a hard thing to do.
Culture shock. People here are very different. Normie content is practically non existent.
The Bitcoin price correction.
😂😂
It’s not addicting
The relay data availability problem. The outbox model doesn’t work
It’s funny how we hear completely opposite opinions about outbox from various devs 😂 I appreciate the spirit behind outbox, but I don’t see how outbox can work for discoverability and I don’t see how Nostr can grow without discoverability.
The content. Until we start seeing screenshots from njump in other networks, you know the topics discussed here are niche and therefore the userbase is small.
If anything technical becomes a blocking point, I am confident that there are more than enough talented people in the space to solve whatever may stall growth.
That’s the thing. I don’t think we should have or need discoverability. I think all relays should have a complete copy of the data (at least for global social media apps). Until we have that the UX will quickly turn away most people
It’s good for humans, bad for growth. Nostr takes work, people use social media to *not* do work
a lot of people on here hated #bch but we can all learn how they market/package #bchnostr. In only 4 weeks their user base have grown from 0 - 700. Their community is quite active. People even tagged them as bot bcoz of the amount of activity. But they are not.
I’ll be curious to see if the effort has staying power. Nostr had several surges of new users from late 2022 through 2023, but a lot of those users have largely abandoned it.
What good is having all the data if there’s no good way for users to discover it, to find what interests them?
I would say the fact that most apps are beta versions, most apps are too complicated for the normal user and not enough marketing/publicity
it is one we can see and watch 👌
Good thing we don’t have a bunch of extremely vocal users ⭕️ publicly demonizing the devs working to make apps more user-friendly and the users supporting them 👀😂
We're tech people building tech experiments, not business people building products. One is not better than the other, but growth is not a result of maxing out our innovation budget. Nostr has to get boring first, then it can grow. And it's not boring yet; we haven't solved signers, relay selection, relay incentives, messaging, even content addressing. It's still the wild west, and I wouldn't expect any non-enthusiast to put up with it.
Even the enthusiasts don’t seem too enthused as of late 😅😂
The culture/vibe. It’s off. The revolutionary spirit is gone.
The babes aren’t here