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(funny enough, this note itself was too long and was rejected) π
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Won't that be weird since you can get sub-140 reply notes but the root over-140 note won't load?
How awesome! A character count feature on Clients, to be certain my messages are within limit and wont be rejected by these relay types, would be useful.
Good point
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Thank you for highlighter.
Does that include tagged npub's etc? If not, you cross that limit very very easily π
Hmm, good point. It would include the npub; I'll change that.
*sticks rod in own bicycle wheel meme.jpg*
This reply looks out of context, wrong βeβ tag it seems?
I like this! Thank you !
Moderation for the goods of freedom
"keep nostr weird"
What about kind 0 and kind 10002? It could be a problem to fetch author metadataβ¦
Just say "pablo" or "fiatjaf" it's only 20 people and everyone reads everything anyway
Is Madeira inspiring these ideas?
How does he eat through the pillow cases and greensuits?
This is cool, now we need clients enforcing the 140 chars and allowing threads π
he feeds on his own bullishness
Very promising
Maybe it makes sense for khatru
View quoted note βNeat. How can I browse a single relay?
View quoted note βYour post is attracting a lot of attention.
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I love this idea but also think itβs going to be completely unusable in practice. π
Dope!
Awesome! Would be great to see these errors surfaced in more clients.
Would this include the characters of an image URL?
Yes, but maybe it shouldnβt like I did for npub/note/nevents.
How did Twitter handle this? Did URLs factor in into the 140 limit?
What's the best way to use specific and special case relays like this?
Most apps have a global, by following and some a few other filters.
Is there a simple way I'm missing to just go "today I wanna see just the 140char posts" or "now let's go check out that relay that only accepts cat pics"?
Using Amethyst, Snort and Iris normally fwiw
URLs might have like if you linked to a webpage, but I donβt think images did.
We came up with the concepts of relay sets months ago but they havenβt received much love.
The UX could be similar to that of using Discord. One click and you can change everything except your keys and mix and match your content/identity/follow list as you wish.
This is largely unexplored but Iβve experimented in the old version of Highlighter and itβs a very amazing and powerful experience.
We still don't have a streamlined nice way to browse relays, or do we?
I don't believe that 140 characters can effectively restrict spam messages. The issue with spam messages lies not in their length but in their enormous quantity and frequent occurrence. If I were to send a hundred messages to every person in the Nostr network using a thousand accounts within a second, even if these messages were only 140 characters long, they would still be spam messages. The 140-character limit can foster a short message social media culture similar to Twitter, but it cannot prevent abuse of the messaging system.
No. Incredibly this is still not done.
Someone is coming to
@Sovereign Engineering that I hope might push the boundaries of this
How will you know if it was rejected?
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Love nostr love btc, but being honest I no nothing about relays. Can anyone point me to a helpful resource to educate myself? Thanks!
Your client might tell you. Snort and nostrudel tell you
Glad I didnβt have to highlight that and you did. This needs to be worked on because letβs face it - a post over 140 characters doesnβt make it βspam.β I thought it (your post) was semi informative and important (fine and nothing wrong), but was restricted because of a character limit.
lol.
Good idea!
Though, 280 may be better?
Stay tuned: 140 π€ notes coming soon to a client near you.
When will boys get it? We care more about the content of the character than the size!
I just tried wss://140.f7z.io and it works very well.
I used one of my other npubs so I wouldn't upset anything relay wise for this npub.
All I am seeing are very short notes on the test npub now.
View quoted note βI just tried wss://140.f7z.io and it works very well.
I used one of my other npubs so I wouldn't upset anything relay wise for this npub.
All I am seeing are very short notes on the test npub now.
View quoted note βThisss! π―π―π― ππβ₯οΈ I totally agree, I love long and short life update posts. Recipes and podcast information. Not huge on dev stuff all the time. A mixture is good too but to be able to filter it would be amazing ππ₯. Size doesnβt always matter.
Especially images shouldn't count I guess π€
Itβs really all about the motion in the ocean.
Yes URL characters counted, which is the primary reason why URL shortening services appeared right after Twitter did.
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Hey pepe, can you please guide me to on how to write a NIP? My write-filter is gonna make heads explode but i can't do it by myself.
Yes
True. Iβll change it.
I think 280 characters was a mistake.
Twitter with 140 felt better.
Itβs not about spam! Of course a > 140 character doesnβt make it spam!
this note has far more than 140 characters! π
And the memers rejoice ππ«
I'll settle for 220.
Seeing posts on this relay from people who arenβt connected to the relay. I click on their profile and I check their relays and itβs not there. Maybe itβs
@Damus . Iβm just filtering the global feed by relay.
Are emojis each counted as one character?
Yup
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It ingests notes that satisfy the conditional from a few other relays
Is this a negotiation?
Yup. Itβs not available on this relay π
Fixed it, bad at math I guess
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Nevermind I had it right the first time. What is wrong with me.. too much carpentry I was thinking 144.
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Does the phrase βso fucking bullshitβ count as one character? ππ jk
Bravo though, we like options and diversity. π
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It counts as -10 characters π
Some limitations make you thrive and florishβ‘πΊ
View quoted note β210 π
Indeed π―
Sleepcoding is the new sleepwalking
Does the character limit applies to media urls too?
140 on Twitter was like ppl were just barking out summaries and condensed thought fragments for maximum effect, which was often
β I am so offended, need to engage moreβ .
140 was in my opinion a Buiz Model around engagement farming.
Didn't appeal to me, but was successful.
But if you areeasily distracted and talk in memes only, 140 is enough. HΓΆ.
There aren't proper threads here, maybe on other clients ?
I would give 280 a try.
Enough for form follows function.
this literally twitter with moderation.
Me too. Its the only way to fly. I wish clients would complement with a character counter so I know if I am being filtered.
@Vitor Pamplona
Are links included in the limit?
It was the character limit and tweetdeck for me
Now we need clients to add a character count when typing so you know if you're short posting or not. π
210 obviously.
We need more dictatorship on relay. Thats good for nostr. Please continue.
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So you understand what is long and what is short. π«
Cool idea. I may use this to test a DVM for sentence embeddings.
Related idea for improvement: could it be possible to make the character limit recursive? I.e. the events in the e tag must also satisfy the character limit. That way it prevents people from quoting an entire essay
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