How is everyone liking the new NWC wallet interface? One click setup with @Mysterious Hamster means zapping is easier than ever and works everywhere in the world with no KYC!
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Love it 🤙🏼
I’ll give compliments to the chef
I love the interface. When I set up my friend @npub1qh0j...kgkm on Damus we used Minibits instead of Coinos. It’s great to have lots of different options.
I can finally update my setup! Have always been afraid to touch it knowing I’d never get through the workaround process again. Will check out coinos!
We have fractional sats now?
@jb55 How about putting a ⚡️ symbol in front of the balance?
#SatsAreTheStandard
Good idea
yes they are called msats
I know, but I’ve never seen that in a wallet balance before.
Hey, that's me at No. 2 😂
with one tap setup the wallet will always be tied to your nsec (without leaking your npub to coinos)
I love @Mysterious Hamster
Epic. 🔥
Running @Mysterious Hamster
They're called fractional Bitcoins (mbits) since BIP 177 😂
I found it doesn’t work so well if you use Primal’s NWC though.
I wonder why? all other NWCs work
Indeed
😂
Even on LN?
Very cool. I should have everything working for #nostr #safebox in a matter of days. Zapping works now!
Would be nice to be able to easily copy my coinos linurl from the Damus wallet page “after” it has been setup. I switch between wallets quit frequently and doesn’t seem to be “copyable” after I’ve removed it from my profile.
I see it as routing fees on my node but never in normal Lightning wallet balances.
Checks out.
Fair and valid point
I keep getting this error message
Wallet returned an unauthorized error. Message: This NWC connection is no longer valid please create a new one at https://coinos.io/settings/nostr
It’s a display option in Zeus
Which wallets are compatible with the new update? I’m used to using WOS for Damus but it looks like it’s not longer an option with this recent update?
wait so we have denominations to 3 more decimal points? I"m assuming this is for when $1 = 1 SAT?
1000 msats in a sat. Its not “real” until you get 1000msats of course
you can always set your lightning address to WoS in your profile. This will allow you to receive zaps via WoS. WoS just doesn’t have NWC spending.
This is Germany. We have inflation. We cannot afford full sats here.
The period is just how thousands are split outside of most of the Americas. Commas are used as decimal separators, not periods.
Oh, yeah…that hadn’t occurred to me.
I still get confused with the numbering scheme in lighting invoices. Goes as small as picoBTC
Might have to give this a shot. 😅
Gr8
that's new on me, LND only has millis (3 decimal places)
i think periods are used in europe and some other countries, in australia it was a space and in USA it is comma... the european use of the comma as the decimal place threw me for ages when i first arrived in europe... i do like the european 1 and 7 tho. but the period separator is an abomination, as is the decimal place, since it's also ambiguous for writing a representation of an array of numbers, colons and semicolons make zero sense
in programming languages there is a convergence going on towards using underscores and allowing you to write them as constants this way, this makes recognising the whole number as being space/symbol separated, spaces are already a primary scheme for separating symbols in source code where there is no comma or bracket/brace/parenthesis/math symbol between them
we are a long way from having a universal standard of plaintext representation though, just go look at what options you can find in spreadsheet apps
they were first introduced into lightning right at the beginning... and bitcoin at 1M will make it a necessity
No I already know this. I meant that I never saw a wallet that displayed them, but then it was pointed out to me that this is just a European decimal point.
decimal comma you mean? or a thousands separator?
fuck europe tho, only thing they got right was their power socket standard but child safety and china manufacturing has fucked that up as well
Yeah that’s what I meant. I’m tired.
but also, fuck europe, right?
Australia uses a space?!
Can’t we just have fucking standards for numbers…
we can’t even figure out a standard for dates
Comma thousand separator makes total sense to me. Decimal point to denote the same never did.
Mm/dd/year
ISO 8601 format is the best we have:
YYYY-MM-DD
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*Request delete this
Good
Yes and works well for naming photo catalogs.
I prefer YYYY-MM-DD for sortability even when treated as text
I prefer DD-MM-YYYY
its ok to be wrong
This you mean?
lexicographic, monotonic decreasing precision makes the most sense for dates
if you store timestamps as is done with unix, you literally turn it into human readable form for hours just by converting it to base 60 (with two decimal numbers per cipher)
then it gets messy for weeks, months and years but watcha gonna do
also for the thousands based divided units of seconds, that's also ugleh
anyway, days are not exactly 24 hours, currently for the first time in a long time they are under 24 hours, and years vary as well versus the sidreal (versus the star constellations) in a famous retrograde cycle known as the precession of the equinoxes
a random side fact about calendars also, the book of Genesis declares that 360 day years were prescribed by the Lord, which is bullshit, because Enoch goes into great detail specifying that seasons are exactly 91 days long and a year is 364
still wrong but closer. i think the only archaic calendar that doesn't get out of sync for several thousands of years is the chinese lunar calendar
and then... we could start talking about the problem of gravity and the speed of time after that, haha.
computer time representations, ie Unix Time is a pretty good universal standard tho, because it's based on measuring angles of stars against the rotation of the earth
in the actual real world tho, time is subjective by the local gravitational force, imposing standards is entirely determined by the utility based on the physical region of space it governs... what time standard would you use on mars, or in deep space? how do you even make an oscillator that is isolated from local gravity anyway?
We have 31.5.25 today. That easy.
they say ein un zwanzig in german and the dutch also use this archaic old germanic back to front of tens and under tens, just like you 'muricans say may 1st while the rest of the world says 1st of may, which one is backwards? idk, talk to the arabs about it, they gave us back to front numbers as well
@utxo the webmaster 🧑💻 sent me some last year
no, i got that backwards, may 1st is the left to right ordering, 1st of may is the murican way, and why you have mm-dd-yyyy
only if you say thirty first of may, like germans say one and twenty
One and thirtyth of course
which is also a right to left descending ordering like arabic numbers, which is a right to left language
Unfortunately, someday some genius will expect that we want to start calling THOSE bitcoins.
I do not see where in my coinos dashboard to extract an NWC connection string. Guides mention a gear icon that does not appear in my coinos interface.
Yeah I had to disconnect it. Wouldn’t load. But I’m confused on the coinos wallet. How does it work and how do I send sats to myself
I would recommend using the one-click setup so you don’t need to mess with connection strings
If you’re using Damus you simply set up a coinos wallet in the app. It then creates a coinos wallet address (will be an alphanumericstring@coinos.io. Damus will then add this to your profile to receive zaps and you will be able send zaps from the wallet. To load it with sats you can use another wallet to send sats to your coinos address.
In Germany, they use a dot instead of a comma. You the balance we see here are actually 4222 sats. But msat was new for me
Thanks. I just don’t see a way to send or receive sats directly from the wallet UI. Just shows transactions. Can’t even copy my wallet address to send from another wallet.
Also is my password my nsec?
Yeah we still need to add that. In the meantime you can just use a client to zap your profile or send zaps to another profile
About to try that from Primal but if my npub is connected to two different wallets (primal and coinos) which wallet gets the sats?
no… obviously. that would be insanely insecure. The password is deterministic, based off your nsec: sha256(nsec + “:coinos”)
Its based on whatever lnurl is in your profile
When you connect the coinos wallet this automatically gets updated on your profile
I just started playing around with coinos NWC. Much better integration than the primal one. The wallet interface is really cool. Not having to go back to Coinos website to check the transactions is great
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But I have two different lnurl in 2 diff clients. There’s something I’m not grokking
Not sure what that means I did one tap setup so didn’t set up a password or anything
I do this. Primal always sends from its built in wallet. Just make sure your bitcoin lightning address is the coinos one in your profile (this is shared across clients). You can see my profile in Primal below (if I use primal to zap myself the sats will leave my primal wallet and be deposited at my coinos address). You can actually put any wallet address here (they’re called LNURL addresses). Primal gave you one too when you signed up for Primal (username@primal.net) so you can always re-add that if you want to receive zaps to that address.
Are you referring to wanting to sign in at the “coinos.io” website?
One tap setup should definitely update your bitcoin receive address (lnurl) on your profile.
If you don’t see the update on primal its likely because you are seeing a stale version of your profile since primal does not read from your relay list.
You can edit your profile in damus to verify the address
Sometimes just closing the client/s and reopening updates everything. So whatever you add to your bitcoin lighting address should be shared across them.
Didn’t even realize this was a thing. Will try out tonight. 🫡
Yup I see it updated in primal now
I’m just wondering if I need to access the wallet outside of nostr if that’s possible. Also I’m wondering if my strike ln address will work on nostr across clients since that’s my primary custodial wallet.
Thanks it’s updated across clients now. Why do I show as unknown?
Yeah, when you’ve used one-click wallet creation within Damus, I am not sure how you access the wallet outside of NOSTR / Damus because, as you say, you’re not given a “password” in order to access the wallet over at www.coinos.io. You can first create a wallet directly at coinos.io and add that to Damus though (via NWC which I mention below). And yes, you can use a Strike address in a NOSTR client to “receive” zaps, which some people do. Just remember that in order to “send” zaps, they will need to leave a wallet that is connected/integrated to the client. I think of it as…. I can receive lightning zaps at any LNURL address I add to my NOSTR profile but sending lightning zaps from within a client requires a wallet to be integrated within the client. This is why Nostr Wallet Connect (NWC) was developed - might be worth reading about that later. It’s why coinos was integrated with Damus so that everything was done for you. You basically receive and send from the one coinos wallet. It’s also why Primal was built with its own integrated wallet (to send and receive zaps within its own wallet). Anyway, I hope you’re all sorted now. And remember, if you post stuff that people like/enjoy they will likely zap you, so that’s one way to fill your receiving address wallet. 🙂
That makes sense. Thanks for answering all my questions!
Good! Need withdraw 🤝
I faced the same issue
Will it enable zapping posts? My zap ends up being associated with the user’s profile, rather than post. Do I need to change something?
you can zap posts now on the latest version. Its the lightning button on the post…
C'est ne lightning button pas
I just zapped you. Did you get it as a profile zap or a zap associated with this very reply?
yeah
That was the only thing standing between me and using Damus as my main X-like Nostr app.
This issue doesn’t exist anymore 🫡
Looks awesome!