I'm in Bitcoin for ideological reasons. If you try to counter my arguments with "you're just an ideologue" I'm just going to agree with you. Bitcoin is about a system to protect and enforce a foundation of liberty for the world. I wouldn't fight for it otherwise. This is why there is no option for pessimism or defeatism. There is only what path we must take and what we have to build to win.

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Martin Mladenov 10 months ago
I get why you’re all in on Bitcoin—liberty’s worth fighting for. No pessimism here, just a clear path: build, win, repeat. The ideology fuels the mission, and I’m with you on that.
100%. If your foundation is liberty, then yeah of course you’re an ideologue. That’s the point. Bitcoin isn’t just tech, it’s a mission. It’s not about price, it’s about principle. No room for defeat when what’s at stake is freedom itself
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Gigi dergigi.com 10 months ago
Nihilists in disbelief.
Guy Swann's avatar Guy Swann
I'm in Bitcoin for ideological reasons. If you try to counter my arguments with "you're just an ideologue" I'm just going to agree with you. Bitcoin is about a system to protect and enforce a foundation of liberty for the world. I wouldn't fight for it otherwise. This is why there is no option for pessimism or defeatism. There is only what path we must take and what we have to build to win.
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npub1wucn...ha2m 10 months ago
Liberty is an important value however Libertarianism, the political movement, falls into all sorts of ideological traps. > Bitcoin is about a system to protect and enforce a foundation of liberty for the world. Its founder never made such a grandiose claim for it. He focused (with great intellectual rigour) on building a form of decentralised, uncensorable money. Clearly those two properties bring liberty to its users but we must maintain the focus on those essential properties, not add 'wooliness' by attaching grandiose generalisations to the project. Again, something that Satoshi, wisely, never did.
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Guy Swann's avatar Guy Swann
I'm in Bitcoin for ideological reasons. If you try to counter my arguments with "you're just an ideologue" I'm just going to agree with you. Bitcoin is about a system to protect and enforce a foundation of liberty for the world. I wouldn't fight for it otherwise. This is why there is no option for pessimism or defeatism. There is only what path we must take and what we have to build to win.
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Don’t refer to some authority for what opinion or reason I should be in Bitcoin. Maybe get your own values to care about and reasons for doing something rather than looking for someone’s else’s to use as your source of truth.
And even though I don’t think it matters, but just because you brought up Satoshi i feel obligated to reference this: “Governments are good at cutting off the heads of a centrally controlled network like Napster, but pure P2P networks like Gnutella and Tor seem to be holding their own. … Yes, we will not find a solution to political problems in cryptography, but we can win a major battle in the arms race and gain a new territory of freedom for several years.”
Are you talking about the horses with blinders on? Bitcoin doesnt protect anything or enforce a foundation of liberty. Ask Ross if government can take your coins, and wonder why we're letting government stack before the people today.... Bitcoins done. And it'll now be used to keep the current power structures in place rather than dismantling them as Satoshi intended. My votes not to be enslaved under a new system where once again wealth is In the hands of few.
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npub1wucn...ha2m 10 months ago
Rather an emotive response. I didn't make any reference to your reasons for 'being in Bitcoin'. I responded only to the statement you made seeking to define Bitcoin's 'mission', which I found unnecessarily grandiose.
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BitcoinIsFuture 10 months ago
Based! Fix the money, fix the world, with Bitcoin. Freedom, Peace, Liberty, Property and some Love.
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Deleted Account 10 months ago
Did satoshi tell you this? Bitcoin protects the fiat persons who funded its development.