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I thought they already said no to this?
Round 2?
faaaaahhhhh
But it's all voluntary?
So companies are not forced to do so?
I always thought they scanned messages anyways.
Why not VPN?
FUCK THIS! WE VOTED NO SO MANY FUCKING TIMES!!!!! THESE FUCKING ASSHOLES HAVE NO RESPECT FOR DEMOCRACY!
Yeah, using Tor is not going to help you here.
It's already the third decisive vote within the last 8 months?
If "they" lose again, expect the next decisive vote in no more than 3 months.
The children need the protection - now.
The parliament said no on numerous occasions. The commission and council keep pushing this, hard, over and iver and over and over again.
"Think of the children"...
They do. But now they do it legally in cooperation with law enforcement.
A self-hosted server and a non compliant client will help you.
A client you won't be able to install on iOS and stock Android soon.
I don't see what the problem is.
I completely misunderstood ChatControl.
This is a fight to stop companies from doing something that they were already doing - I presume stipulated in their T&Cs as well?
If it is in the T&C's then I see no problem.
The solution is to not use those services.
Round 3 already. They will try until they bought everybody and get what they want.
DeMoCraFU or however they call this BS.
I guess they'll keep having votes until they get the outcome they want
The problem for the EU is that those companies are from US and RUS, so they don't have access to the data.
So it's just the EU state wanting parity with the US π
Ah yes, just statist things.
There's several problems but the biggest problem IMO is these bastards won't accept a fucking no. We voted no. Get over it. Right? But they won't. I agree that any private or public company can make their terms clear and anyone who willingly participates can do so β no problem there.
What is problematic is a super-national corporation overruling national constitutions under guise of protecting the children even when that same corporation has received a NO vote. And not just once. They just keep pushing this shit. I bet anyone who turned from no to yes is in the fucking Epstein files or some shit like that. What else could corrupt a person to such an extreme degree? These people also tried making exceptions for themselves, and I'm not even shitting you. They'll be scanning everyone but themselves. Funny how it's all rich and famous people who do nasty shit to children but they get a pass on the scanning. Lol. Fuck that, man. GG WP to anyone European.
I have no doubt that they won't be scanned π
And that, following my belief that a private company can do what they want given it is on the T&Cs. I completely agree the Eureich (the MPs) will somehow make themselves exempt from it coercively, unless the T&Cs end up saying "government excluded" - no problems with that.
That being said. Just don't use this stuff. These services are UTTER trash. Alternatives exist and people REALLY must put their money or time where their words are.
Who do these pricks actually represent?
I personally think this will go beyond online services. It'll likely extend to "oh if you want to sell a phone in the EU then it must have backdoor client side scanning". "oh of you want to be a telecommunications company providing services in EU they you must enforce call recording and SMS scanning". "Oh btw if you want to sell cars in EU then spread those buyers' assholes wide because you know well be stuffing a camera in that as well".
Yes. Fuck the platforms/services. Least concern. I have no doubt they'll be milking this law until we're all thanking Ursula for letting us, the feeble minded plebs, lick her goddess-boots.
Yes, if it leads into coercive regulations (as that is what that would be).
Then yeah, screw it, and I can see how they would push for that with the exact same:
"It's for the kids" / "It's to stop anti-semitism" / "arab terrorism"
Ursula really is a peace of work.
She reminds me of an "old guard" Afrikaaner, who worked in the state, who would have loved to rattle the peasants a little bit more. I say this based on her "oudoos" (old "doofus" generous translation)) haircut.
Granny vibes. And hey grannies are cool, but not evil grannies or control freak grannies.
The Epstein class
Reminder that your overlords are STILL trying to screw you over, but this time they hope to move faster than you can react.
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The EU reps have voted NO, twice, so some corporate types pushed through an emergency voting round during World Cup, to try a third time.
There is so much AI money riding on this, it's ridiculous. They need the EU to adopt it, so that they can then force it on the Americans by saying, you need this, to be compatible with the EU.
European democracy - keep voting until you vote the way the Globalists want...
European democracy - keep voting until you vote the way the Globalists want...
No, this is about stopping it BEFORE it will be mandatory.
Governments thought us, that EVERY LAW will be expanded and that they use frog boiling methods.
That's why everyone has to keep pushing back even if it's a voluntary scanning
Demonstrably, this governmental system is for the tyrants, and does not serve the people in any favorable way.
Does a "yes" in this context get a revote? Why of course not.
But this does mean voluntary actions get taken away.
And secondly, we have tech that makes censorship hard. So why keep using those platforms?
You want me to believe that the Euroids (police officers of the EU states) are going to enforce this on everyone? How will that even work. May as well cut the Internet off, ban import of routers etc. It becomes wild.
It's like a 3D printer ban, it's just absurd.
So I'd say, wait till it gets to that and then pushback (if you even need to, as mentioned: alt-tech is the answer)
Using iOS or Google Android will not help you here.
you gave up your firearms
this is what you get
The ignorant (slim) majority forced the will of the communist blob on the entire population.
What bad actors?
It will work by "exclusion", the same way as attestation in EU (very soon) where only google and apple phones can run EU identification apps.
So unfortunately, it's not that easy, people need to act before it's too late, even if they are unaffected - like me - I'm ungovernable, I will just use a different transport layer, or a fake ID if I have to. I'm not doing it for myself, but for those who will have to live with this nightmare in the future if we don't stop it
And you are in the phase "no, this is insane they won't do it".
Well, that's what has changed in 2025 - they crossed a lot of red lines and everything is on the table right now, that's why I'm warning about it so often. I have a rule - I warn only about really dangerous things, things on the edge, things way more dark than any war or genocide.
Can my prediction be wrong? Of course! What is more, I really hope I'm wrong.
