people aren't yet ready for nostr. and that's ok.
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but nostr is ready for people, when they ready 🌏
All in good time.
I hope more of my friends are ready soon because I'm super ready to close out all my old socials 💯🦋🌎
Let them eat cake
nostr is a protocol.
People don't care about protocols, they care about services and their functionalities.
#nostr allow us to build killer services that people will care about.
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nostr bridges to the 13million user fedi, so surely you can find something else?
this relay
wss://relay.mostr.pub
it already is supplanting it, one of their great devs @Alex Gleason has been converted, the fedi is over
Most people...
Most people aren't ready for bitcoin either.
Most people just aren't ready for anything.
We're not most people.
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They weren't ready for Bitcoin in 2012 either yet here we are. We're sooooooo early!
"All digital media is going to zero against nostr" - Max Kaiser 2025.
Everyone has their time, my father for example thinks that #nostr is something like the deep web, a place where there are only bad things, for bad people. He asks me to be careful every time I go to his house. I'll make him watch the documentary so maybe he'll change his mind.
People aren’t ready for Bitcoin also
The phases are determined by the types of people, not the absolute numbers.
I'm not an early innovator, I'm just at the front of the next group. You can tell the difference because my writing topics and style aren't part of the First Wave.
Specially having to sing-in with the private key on the different clients…
but goats almost are.
Well said!
You're sure early in the forest then
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I am me, and I'm ok. 🤙
People may not he ready but this is the next big thing in social media. Hope NOSTR replaces Youtube, we need an alternative to it.
It's my first steps into it.....
I know of a content provider who's on Nostr. Goes by Brainpod.. You can see him on Rumble. He's a blogger with many many videos, and has posted to Nostr. He says he never sees his posts, and honestly, I can't seem to search and find him.. Maybe I don't know how to use the search feature or something. There is content out there. How does it get publicized might be the question?
That the corpos fight zaps I don‘t find ok.
Jack, is it possible to have a light on mode on iris.to?
I've seen a lot of people speak about data security and privacy. Sure a lot of those people also like bitcoin... 😅
Same. Nostr and instagram are my only social medias now. Nosrt 90% more than IG.
Bring back Xanga on Nostr!
Not enough suffering yet. As the global socio-economic situation worsens and social unrest rises and governments become increasingly authoritarian and censorious, more and more people will feel the need for the self-sovereignty that Nostr and btc and LN offers.
I’m ready sir 🫡
اشکالی نداره اصلا 😁
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Nostr isn't yet ready for the masses. And that's OK.
Sadly currently any nostr user *must* be willing to use bitcoin and pay for a relay in order to get a decent experience, that's the root cause of this being a BTC echo-chamber
How are the servers secured for nostr? Why not use a dlt instead. Hedera Hashgraph most promising.
There's one brilliant play.. By Goran Stefanovski.. A man says..( I'll try to translate..) Not all can understand everything but those who are given to understand..
That's how I feel here..for couple of hours..I dont understand a thing lol..
Just.. I am aware.. Which can make things even worse.. 🤣
You can find some groups by going to https://graphicsocial.media just click on the things that interest you and then follow any people who post interesting things. There are many many interesting people on NOSTR.
Born ready 🫡
"build it and they will come"
I tried using it weeks ago and felt lost. It wasn't until I came across Max DeMarco's video on YouTube that I understood what was happening. It's a wonderful idea and I'm glad Nostr exists.
Why? I'm in. And we will rise.
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Nostr is da future
not true, paid relays are pay to write and free to read cmiiw thats why devs should make their clients able to browse/filter relays like coracle, snort & damus
Jack how can I use Damus to connect with expats in El Salvador? Particularly, those who are also planning to attend Bitcoin2024 in Nashville? Thanks!
When the floodgates open, we’ll be ready for them to experience uncensorable news.
I like it. Interesting that it’s not in the conversation more as an alternative.
OMG. And you in your little bubble thought it would be different?
This is cope.
People aren't ready to have a broken cuckstodial payment system foisted on them.
I'd argue Nostr isn't ready for people. I care about decentralization a lot, but most people do not care enough to move out of the comfort of personalized content. Until that can be replicated, it's difficult to compete with modern social media.
But of course, I'm optimistic about Nostr's future. I'm currently experimenting with ideas with customizable client-side recommendation algorithms or/and higher level relays with curated content.
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I’m ready.
I’m ready for Nostr. #nostr #nostrich #plebchain #blurt
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Yes they can see but cannot engage.
If you only post to free relays, who will see your posts?
If you respond to a viral post will anyone outside your following even see you?
Non-BTC people have zero reach, hence the echo-chamber.
Part of the journey I guess. Thank you
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Nostr. ? What are you talking about?
GM
Use Nostr
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In time
It's true. I don't know wtf to do w/it or where to find hubs. Starting w/News hashtags & I'll read up on this environment.
I'm going to look into building a polling client/app good enough to sell as a package to levels of gov't as cheap,simple,verified,secure referendum/plebiscite device. I'll ask GPT for help...my programming is sub intermediate.
natural process of progress
The Atlantic
We Need a New Science of Progress
Humanity needs to get better at knowing how to get better.
Jack I'm going to look into building a polling client/app good enough to sell as a package to levels of gov't as cheap,simple,verified,secure referendum/plebiscite device.
I think for verification,one could go into the local city hall or state or federal office and w/picture ID confirm that #nostr public key as yours,so verification to the polling area.
I'll ask GPT for help...can Chat GPT write me a #nostr polling client/app? I'll try...VCs?Even if you go do it I'd be happy. Go do it,make a billion$ &I'll be happy for you&the world. The world needs it.
If I may ask - what's the reason that Square doesn't offer option to accept bitcoin Lightning payments?
Can fake accounts harm the growth of Nostr?
Isn't it the other way around?
One of the major flaws is the lack of consistency between clients and UX.
#nostr is a protocol, but no app provides experience and functionality worth attracting an audience not limited to nerds and weirdos. Also, the lack of control over your content is not significant, and there is no proper way to prevent bots, spammers, or anyone to stop interacting with you.
Still a long road ahead.
What clients are you using?
Damus. But the fact that you are asking underlines the problem. The experience and functionality should be consistent. As a creative, I don't find it helpful at all. I believe that people should start building with more consistency and focus on platform maturity. The whole relay part is not that great. Your content might end up on shady servers because, let's face it, for now, the most attractive use of the protocol gathers people that believe they can use it as a dark market or people that were banned from other platforms for good reasons
Appreciate your feedback! ⚡️
Yes, it is a situation that could make you nuts, if you develop something or have an idea of something, and the world is not ready yet. Later on someone comes out with it and the world love it.
When people onboard nostr without knowing about or even caring about bitcoin, blockchains & decentralized protocols. But cares that creators cannot get banned, and information can be freely shared, thats when we know nostr has succeeded.
1. It's a pain in the ass to set up complicated relays.
2. Can't attract Twitter pornography creators or pornographic photo creators.
3. Wallet is not built-in, you have to download and set up wallet, especially for those who don't like cryptocurrency, they will find it troublesome.
4. Bitcoin only accepted, no other cryptocurrencies?
5. Can you find my account on Google, Yahoo, Bring...? Can I find my posts on Nostr on Google, Yahoo, Bring...?
(For example, after a few hours of posting on Twitter, my posts can be found on various search sites using specific keywords.)
Solution is, educating people!
Day by day we are waking up and getting there. (This is my first comment on here)
I'm going to look into building a polling client/app good enough to sell as a package to levels of gov't as cheap,simple,verified,secure referendum/plebiscite device.
I think for verification,one could go into the local city hall or state or federal office and w/picture ID confirm that #nostr public key as yours,so verification to the polling area.
Good morning ChatGPT:
if you wanted to build an app that does polling, that is secure and scalable to a nationwide referendum, which language would you choos if you were pretending to be a master programmer like Elon musk or Jack Dorsey etc?
ChatGPT:
If I were pretending to be a master programmer like Elon Musk or Jack Dorsey and wanted to build a secure and scalable app for nationwide referendums that involves polling, I would choose a language that excels in both performance and security. Considering the scale of the application and the need for robust security measures, I would opt for a compiled language like Rust.
Rust is a modern systems programming language known for its strong emphasis on safety, performance, and concurrency. It provides memory safety guarantees through its ownership and borrowing system, which helps prevent common programming errors like null pointer dereferences and data races. Rust's compiler enforces strict rules on memory access, ensuring the application is less prone to security vulnerabilities like buffer overflows.
Here are some reasons why Rust would be a great choice for such an application:
Performance: Rust offers performance comparable to C and C++ due to its zero-cost abstractions and ability to write low-level code when needed. This is important for handling a large number of concurrent requests in a nationwide referendum app.
Concurrency: Rust has excellent support for concurrent programming through its ownership model and lightweight threads called "async tasks." This makes it easier to handle multiple concurrent users participating in the referendum.
Memory Safety: Rust's borrow checker and strict compile-time checks help eliminate common memory-related bugs, leading to a more secure application.
Community and Ecosystem: Rust has a rapidly growing and enthusiastic community, along with a robust ecosystem of libraries and tools that can aid in building secure and scalable applications.
Security: Given the importance of nationwide referendums, security is of utmost concern. Rust's design principles and safety features make it well-suited for writing secure software.
That being said, building an app for a nationwide referendum is a complex task that involves many aspects beyond just the choice of programming language. Security, scalability, and data privacy are critical considerations, and the development team must follow best practices and conduct rigorous security audits to ensure the app's integrity and reliability.
How long before it blows up do you reckon?
.... please continue GPT...
Below is a rough outline of the app's structure and some key components:
Backend Server: The app will need a backend server to handle poll creation, voting, and verification of "nostr" private keys. The server would communicate with the app using API endpoints.
Database: A database is essential to store poll data, user information, and verification status. SQLite is a popular choice for small to medium-sized applications.
User Authentication: Users should be able to create accounts and log in securely. Authentication tokens (JWT) can be used for secure user sessions.
Poll Creation: Authenticated users can create polls with specific questions and options.
Voting: Users with verified "nostr" private keys can cast their votes on polls.
Verification: Users can verify their "nostr" private keys with their respective constituencies by showing ID at the relevant government office.
Security Measures: Implement security best practices like input validation, encryption, and ensuring secure communication between the app and server.
Please remember that this is a high-level outline, and the actual implementation would require careful consideration of security, error handling, and performance optimizations.
Cost estimate for creating a #nostr #client #app to do local to national level polling,as a referendum/plebiscite device/product/service for governments to do accurate,geographically-sensitive polls and referendums....
GPT:
To provide a rough ballpark figure, it is not uncommon for large-scale applications with similar complexity to exceed 50,000 to 100,000 lines of code or more.
Based on the estimates provided earlier, here's a rough overall estimate for the entire project to develop a nationwide referendum app:
Total Estimated Project Cost: Considering the development team's cost and additional expenses, the total estimated project cost could range from approximately $460,000 to $560,000 or more.
[so maybe 2m?]
Estimated Time to Complete: For a project of this complexity, including development, testing, refinement, and potential unforeseen challenges, a reasonable time frame would be around 6 to 12 months.
Based on the earlier estimates, a minimum team of 3 key roles would be required:
Backend Developer
Frontend Developer
DevOps Engineer
For the sake of the estimate, let's assume an average monthly cost of $10,000 per developer.
Total Estimated Cost for the Development Team: 3 developers * $10,000/month * 12 months = $360,000
Keep in mind that the actual cost may vary based on the experience level and location of the developers, among other factors.
Additional Costs: In addition to the development team's cost, other expenses may include:
Infrastructure and Cloud Services: Costs for servers, databases, hosting, and cloud services required to run the application.
Software and Tools: Expenses for licenses and subscriptions to development tools, IDEs, and third-party libraries.
Security Audits and Testing: Budget for security experts to perform audits and penetration testing.
Legal and Compliance: Costs related to legal advice and compliance with data protection and privacy regulations.
Project Management: Fees for project management and coordination.
Software and Tools: Expenses for licenses and subscriptions to development tools, IDEs, and third-party libraries.
Legal and Compliance: Costs related to legal advice and compliance with data protection and privacy regulations.
What people?
We are here and more are coming. There is just not marketing budget, to just make it Boom.
And that is good, organic growth like life and Bitcoin is positive.
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Algorithms and self-sovereignty are not mutually exclusive. On #nostr you can have both!
Algorithms are useful for discovering content/trends/people IMO. The big issue is if a single entity controls what you see in your feed, but if you have a free market like #nostr you can select the algorithm(s) you like - or none
I'm still learning about nostr, can you elaborate on why it cannot attract pornography creators? I thought there were no limitations on content by the protocol itself.
Because yall can't make a decent app
Fucking exactly!
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We only make indecent apps
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At least indecent can’t be censored here
Megan doesn’t care about that.
Oh c'mon!
🤣 you’re on 🔥 today
Do you think ‘creamythighs’ would be tolerated on another platform?
Right
i am with you. 🤙🏻 (on that). heh.
Exactly
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Who is Megan? 🤨
She’s an indecent app user
Do it! I recently did and it feels amazing! People text and call more now 😂
If you can create an entirely new Internet Protocol you can create a decent fucking app so don't give me that shit.
Most people aren't technical, I mean fuck, some people don't even know what the words Internet Protocol even means. They just want to use their email and a password and be able to sign up don't make it fucking complicated like the stupid ass fediverse.
All these developers here creating complicated ass shit and then calling them social media sites. Yeah okay they're not that fucking simple all right for the average person.
People have to basically sign up to their local community college, and download a 6,9 59 page user manual in order to learn how to use nostr.
Then guess what!
It's all about fucking Bitcoin! -_-
You're shooting yourself in the foot by only appealing to one fucking audience.
The mostr bridge Alex created is the only reason why I'm back on nostr. Now at least I get to see other shit.
Disagree. It's about want, not readiness. Few people want an experience that is difficult to curate and customize. Ground zero is a mad max wasteland of noise.
Someone has to "watch the Watchmen" and on this protocol WE'RE all our own Watchmen. It's a lot of power and too much for kids and even normies.
Clients would be good to clean up the UX as much as possible, smooth out the functionality and have options for prepackaged relays that filter out content based on a user's preferences. I can't recommend this protocol to any normal person...
Too hard. Too techie. Too much filth to filter out. Too many glitches.
Personally, I like a lot about it! But this is real world feedback fwiw.
Having good apps is a huge win for the Mastodon people. They managed to get the guys that made the good Twitter apps on their side when Elon fucked them over.
It’s just a shame they’re ruined by the people and thin stances on that part of the fediverse.
You can find some groups by going to https://graphicsocial.media just click on the things that interest you and then follow any people who post interesting things. There are many many interesting people on NOSTR.
I think many people would be ready for NOSTR if they knew about it. In all the press coverage about Threads there were mentions of Mastadon and BlueSky. I did not see any mentions of NOSTR. NOSTR needs a good PR agency who can get NOSTR mentioned every time there is a story about Threads, Twitter, Blue Sky or Mastadon. This was an extremely popular post with 180 replies. Many people make good points about the onboarding being difficult and some inconsistencies in the UI between clients. These are all valid points, but the fact is that NOSTR "works" on some level and what it lacks is more people on the network. More people coming and testing NOSTR created more value faster than anything else. Sure it is early and some people will get turned off but the experience is getting better each day and many will stay. #grownostr
Thanks..
We’re glad you came back Gabriel 🫶
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I guess just keep doing a little everyday..
The internet was a complete pain in the ass to use in the 90's, and that obviously didn't end well for the internet.
They should be
People are not ready for Web3, owning your data, self hosting on your local device at home, secured by a Internet OS, but that's ok.
Let's just keep building!
Extremely based.
Sending this note from Primal app!