thats not a good precedent

wtf happened?

Supposedly both are filing guilty pleas 🤯 (Yes, hopefully for much lesser charges, but still intriguing)

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Samourai Wallet developers Keonne Rodriguez and William Hill have notified the court of a change of plea – expected to plead...

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If it doesn't go to court than there is no precedent

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not a court precedent but a perception precedent still

Sadge.

They were likely threatened with reputation damage, eternal lawfare and worse unless they made a plea deal. This is how the system works to avoid establishing legal precedents that would be inconvenient to itself.

Maybe. Lets see

Tragic. Say it ain't so!

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Depends what they plead guilty to, if it's their dumb tweets and messaging then...yeah doesn't matter.

I hope they do ok

All the money poured into their defense feels like a Honeypot, fuck I hate being right about this garbage. Hopefully they only plead guilty to their methods of promotion, not their methods of coordination. Still, if it's only the central hosted (default) whirlpool instance they provided that hurt them - then that's not the worst case scenario either - decentralize & forgo that extra greedification / simplification.

not good.

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Of course there will be. I don't follow the case or pretend to know legalese. I merely know that it's the first case of its kind. The outcome sets the precedent Prosecutors will look at this case and decide wether it's worth prosecuting or not. If prior cases led to guilty pleads it's a win in their books so the incentive and the standard will be set.

prosecution realized they fucked up so bad they might lose the case so they leaned on the judge as hard as they could and still have to cut a sweetheart deal to get the guilty plea and the legal precedent they need to keep throwing software developers in jail

the american legal system, ladies and gentlemen 👏

Smoke and mirrors

Back in the day, Ross Ulbricht and Julian Assange were prime examples of "justice". Every government is a psychopath. And psychopaths always need someone to torture. Now it's the turn of the Samourai Wallet developers... View quoted note →

and the shattered dreams of believers in truth, justice, and the rule of law ...fucking disgraceful

Fuck

Rule of law can never exist when it is based on non consensual parties

Sad…

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A plea deal doesn't go to court and a court is needed to set a precedent

Wtf??

What the fuck

i thought the trump admin was "crypto friendly" and "ending the war against crypto" guess they only support cucked kyc coin, not actually freedom money

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They're trading your xpubs for a lighter sentence.

It still sets a de facto precedent. Judges are not bound by such references, but they can influence plea negotiations, bail decisions, or sentencing in similar cases.

Rugged

If they plead guilty to advertising misconduct, re: blatantly marketing to "criminal" use cases - then this case is irrelevant.

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Not so free

Huh

I’ll be watching what is plead to, but I am cautiously optimistic. #freesamourai

trump is a self-engrossed grifter, no surprise here

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If they coded a non-custodial tool and are expected to plead guilty, then should for example knife/gun producers be expected to plead guilty, too?

I'd love to know why. Wondering if pleading guilty avoids setting precedent? Any lawyers to clarify on this?

They pled guilty to fighting for a human right

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