Even if you're a fan of Elon Musk and X, here's a reminder that it's still centralized. Nostr has a deep structural advantage and it's only going to grow in the long term. image

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unknown 1 year ago
Interesting. Nostr still is very centralized and has a long way to scale to even the likes of say....mastodon .. the relays need to improve a lot and no centralization of mediA
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PiecoverBTC 1 year ago
Where are all those people who thought tWiTtEr X was censorship resistant
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Even if you're a fan of Elon Musk and X, here's a reminder that it's still centralized. Nostr has a deep structural advantage and it's only going to grow in the long term. image
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unknown 1 year ago
Over a million users Better Administrative Tools and policies, Can actually prevent spam Their relays can host media uploads to offload to CDN/S3 Better user experience with the web clients Blocks and Mutes actually persist! Server backend actually built better for scaling to a lot of users unlike Nostr relays which are IO heavy. Better federation Probably a lot more
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unknown 1 year ago
They built a NIP that's retarded and does not use already standard API's like S3. They currently reinvent the wheel with services like Nostr.build and others instead of hosting files itself or speaking the S3 protocol natively like everyone else does.
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Phi Am I 1 year ago
Administrative tools? You mean Mastodon server administrators can censor anything they don't like, and confiscate any users account on their server that they don't like. And collectively silence anyone and anything they decide is bad, offensive, or a truth they don't want anyone to know? And you think this is a good thing?
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unknown 1 year ago
Yes, nostr would benefit greatly. Have you ever run a relay and understood what's happening? Relays were designed to be the perfect attack vessels for spammers. Spam attacks happen all the time. To put it in simple terms, Nostr relays are like a public notepad file that anyone can write to. The size of the database can grow really fast and there is nothing that the administrator can do about it unless they go to a white list only which would be an isolate community. So yeah, I think that relay owners should have some say about whats being done on their own servers.
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Mary Connor 1 year ago
Pois é!
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Phi Am I 1 year ago
Have you ever used vi, awk and grep as your primary development tools, and then had some amateur kid pretending he's an expert, and you just smile and say.... Sounds like you haven't setup your relay properly. Perhaps you should RTFM.
Mastodon's protocol is fundamentally broken. Sorry. People are blocked from these servers at the whim of the various administrators - usually woke democratic lefttards. Shove it up your ass mastodon
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unknown 1 year ago
lol I self-hosted lots of "decentralized software". It sounds like you haven't experimented with jack shit and know less than shit. Are you high on the Nostr koolaid? Have you ever run a service?
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unknown 1 year ago
I don't care about Mastodon or Activity Pub at the Protocol level. The only part I care about is the User Experience and System Administrative side of things. These two areas are where Nostr needs to improve quickly on.
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Phi Am I 1 year ago
Your site isn't even working properly. If that's your resume, lol, what an amateur piece of shit.
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unknown 1 year ago
lol wtf are you even talking about. You should get some experience before you run your mouth.
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Roberto 1 year ago
Issue is how difficult it is to get people to switch platforms. If x gets completely shut down there then maybe alternative this will rise
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starfury 1 year ago
The Revolution Will Not Be Centralized image
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RedEye 1 year ago
Come on normies, you’re wasting your time, get on the fun bus!
Spend most my online time in the Fediverse. I like it there but let’s see where this goes. Anything is better than X or Meta websites. Like seriously, they need to die already.
I’m open to it and follow some folks but this is a separate Nostr account.
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Faroaldo 1 year ago
Brazil’s “Supremo Tribunal Federal” judges are politicians first and foremost. De Moraes was a member of the Brazilian Social Democracy Party (PSDB), a center-left party. He was clearly - as most of the Court - against former president Bolsonaro politics.
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MarsIronPI 1 year ago
This why we need people to use only free software. If you don't control your computer, you're vulnerable no matter what apps you use.
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MarsIronPI 1 year ago
Your user experience will be pretty poor if you either get banned from the server you're using or your self-hosted server gets defederated by the large ones.
Oui et non , vous savez dans tous "grands* Etats au Monde l'armée a un pouvoir mais une certaine technicité pour suivre tous les systèmes de communication externe / interne des populations ..Elle répond et excecute des ordres ..Elles sont de plus en plus performantes au niveau informatique..Brésil sous Bolsonara fait des pays qui se sont dotés du pire logiciel d'espionnage Pegasus..un logiciel très efficace dans des endroits sous tension ou en dictature . Vous savez si vous êtes recherche et êtes sur nostr ne vous dites pas protégé enfin c'est sous cette présidence que le Brésil s'est fragilisé sur le plan stratégique puisque l'ancien Président avait mis aux enchères tous les aéroports, ports sans oublier de nombreux territoire d'indigènes du Pays qui ne devraient d'être nationaux sans oublier la plus grande vente d'une partie de 'Amazonie ..c'est à cette période qu'une grande partie du peuple est parti en exil ..
Et votre fournisseur d'accès à internet vous en faites quoii après qu'il vous ait soumis ses conditions d'utilisations que vous signiez en fibre, 4 à 6G ? Ceux là signent des accords avec les Autorités de Marchés des pays où ils fournissent euros offres que nous nous fournissons pour être connectés . Nous n'avons pas tous des moyens de nous doter de systèmes satellites ..D'ailleurs peu de milliards en sont dotés
True. We just need the network effect to onboard crucial amount of people. But decentralization is the way! No doubt.
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dextryz 1 year ago
What have you been working on lately Jimmy?
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unknown 1 year ago
The same thing will happen to nostr one day too. As if now, the fediverse side has the tech to manage their servers to fight spam while nostr is the wild wild west and just accepts spammers and pushes the responsibility to the clients while the relays are helpless against it. This is a loosing battle. Nostr has to find a middle-ground to give admins the tools they need to protect their servers
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unknown 1 year ago
So with PoW, does data still get written to a relay? If yes, its not helping relays fight spam. Its only helping clients mask the problem
I'm guessing that with that kind of spy technology, they'd be able to spy on nostr too. But I'm curious, would their tools be capable of to stop a person from using nostr? Corruption is everywhere. What's scary too is the insidious ways they can infiltrate and co-opt just about anything. BuT I get a sense that the decentralization nature of nostr protocol may at least keep it safe from being halted altogether...
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unknown 1 year ago
It be easier just to let admin ban a spammer by npub via the client like every other tech
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MarsIronPI 1 year ago
We at least have Tor. If that fails, we can set up our own networks using radios.
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MarsIronPI 1 year ago
That’s just one step away from censorship.
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unknown 1 year ago
That will happen with more of the Twitter and Mastodon crowd as they migrate here. They want safe speech. There is nothing stopping that. They want more than the best tool avaliable, the handy dandy mute button. Just wait for the trannies to come here lol, thats when it starts. I seen some discussion already with newbies about sjaring block lists. We might as well have the admin tools to protect and manage our instances now because this free-4-all wont scale well in the near future and will be too costly to maintain.
But GitHub is centralised in regional zones, and iris.to is hosted on cloudflare no? So ...
To Musk's credit , he is running a 42 Billion dollars ad campaign for nostr :-) .. showing the world what their fav platforms made of ..
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MarsIronPI 1 year ago
I agree with your first paragraph, but as to your second point, I think that we need better education of new users, rather than giving them what they want now.
could nostr be used by people in authoritarian countries to safely express themselves without fear?
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João César 1 year ago
I thought nostr was supposed to be descentralized, wasn’t it?