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🎯 This is the question I am left with too. Why dont they just course correct?
The big question is do they ignore BIP110 or propose to signal against. How threatened do they and their backers feel.
What sort of responsible stewards would they be if they bowed to pressure from mongs like you? Just fork. Bye.
I believe for the same reason they let it escalate so much without having talks and debating before this became a normie topic with fans football side instead of people having a discourse about ideas, problems and solutions..
The reason is unknown, but we should look at the incentives probably of both sides, but this is and would even more take as far from the actual topic and discussion about the idea/problem itself.
It's a theatre.
The “pressure” as you call it, was there long before they decided to merge the op_return uncap. From developers on GitHub. And from the Bitcoin community as a whole.
A small contingent of core devs decided to arrogantly push it through anyways.
Have you heard their argument at all? They feel they're on the best couse available.
They pushed it through to maintain Bitcoin’s decentralization. Fantastic stewards and well done to them.
Yeah I’m shrugging my shoulders too at that. You can run whatever dogshit software you like. So go do it, I think it’s called “Knots” or something?
indeed
core should eat this humble pie
4/5 people pushing controversial change maintains decentralization? 😂😂😂
ms slopp
Oh dear. You don’t get it, like, whatsoever do you?
I’m afraid the conclusion to our little back and forth is that you are the one REALLY not getting it 🤷♂️
Nope. I understand basic information theory which means spam while annoying is unavoidable in a censorship resistant system. And why a relay policy closely matching consensus allows small miners to see more transactions to yes, here’s the kicker, maintain mining decentralisation. Keeping up?
So you disagree with Adam that this standard is of no consequence? Meaning that the whole civil war in that case was predictably created for no meaningful gain at all?
Keeping up?
passive core fam
massive bore spam
Unfortunately due to Core's actions and Core's BS so called arguments all trust in them is gone. Zero. 0
They, the Chaincode labs, the Brink all of them bent the knee to shitcoiner spammer VCs like Citrea (with investors like Peter Thiel and Jameson Lopp) and of course all the rest of the spammers and shitcoiners who benefit from spamming Bitcoin - Inscriptions/Ordinals/Runes spmmers, David Bailey and the ones who gravitate around Shitcoin Magazine, Charles Hoskinson and many many more. We see even Andy Back got bent and supports spammers.
I don’t know the whole context of what he’s saying but it doesn’t really matter, the change was done because miners were ignoring it because they had the incentive to. They can just put the spam in bare public keys man. It’s a whack a mole you can’t win. Spam has been on Bitcoin since satoshi dice, and look we’re still going. You want to get rid of spam? Price it out. Stop wasting your energy.
Ok
indeed, it's core job to price it out asap
How exactly is Bitcoin decentralization "maintained" by increasing OP_RETURN?
I know that you will larp the Core BS propaganda that (large) miners already can put large OP_RETURNs so lets allow anyone put large spam on Bitcoin.
That is BS. Uncapping OP_RETURN not only does not solve anything it just allows more spam. It also signals that spam is now acceptable in Bitcoin. More spam makes running nodes harder thus hurting decentralization of Bitcoin. Look at Ethereum and who runs ETH nodes. They did it because Citrea needed it.
Miner decentralization is actually solved by DATUM from Ocean who came from Luke and Bitcoin Knots guys.
It allows running (solo)miners and creating your own mempool templates.
Filtering out spam, which are the sane defaults in Bitcoin Knots mempool, helps better decentralization amognst node runners.
All bollocks
Go and fork. Bye.
Wake up. Open your eyes.
I’m able to understand what’s going on, you aren’t. You’re a retard. Fork and enjoy your shitcoin.
Stay retarded then.
Enjoy all the pubkey spam on your new chain that costs absolutely nothing because your dogshit chain is worth nothing
Fucking drooling mongoloid
Thats all you can?
ITS 25% OF NODES AND COUNTING 🤣 KEEP THAT SHITCOINING HEAD BURIED IN SAND
THIS GUY SOUNDS LIKE AN EXPERT
Wow a majority of 25%! And I’m sure they’re real nodes as well!
Because they are attacking one of the principles of this network: descentralization. They want few homologued nodes runs by pedos.
NO ONE SAID MAJORITY RETARD
I'm not in favour of BIP110, and I'm also not in favour of Peter Thiel type companies using Bitcoin as a decentralised immutable memory module.
I started working to further Bitcoin because uncensorable money seemed like a good idea when the government made me show a vaccine QR code in order to buy food. However I did not sign-up to Bitcoin being used by Palantir in order to carry out genocide (i.e. Palestine, Ukraine) and build totalitarian control grids, that are known by many techno-theologians as 'The Beast System'.
Why don't you put your Citrea use case on the Liquid network? At least there it'll have guardrails insofar as the functionaries will have an opportunity to do an emergency pause?
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Knots > Core
Knots > Core > bip110
Because they're on the correct course.
Pissing off ignorant puritans is just an added bonus.
My bank sending me photos of cats is kinda different to my bank sending me a statement that encodes a cat pic accross thousands of lines of data that's delimited by a bunch of other data.
At least one of the reasons is because they are concerned that reputational damage to Core would lead to protocol fragility.
Psyops Jameson Lopp
And is just a happy accident it benefits your company?
Jameson Slopp calls the compromised Core's course "correct" only because he and Core cuck to the Citrea shitcoiners and scammers VCs.
Fork and good bye.
Bip 110 is not a problem - it is code not narrative - if it fails and there is an attempt to make it consensus … then it becomes narrative.
Core is pure narrative and centralization of Bitcoin. Luckily Knots has saved the network by simply existing. Implementation of BIP 110 and using pure code and consensus gives us hope for the future. It’s how it should be … changes comes when the network agrees - not by big donors who pay to make changes for their own agenda.
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How, pray tell, would it do that? Sounds like you've been decieved into believing a lie that's nearly a year old at this point.
Jameson SLopp is investor in Citrea.
Another investor in Citrea is Peter Thiel the chairman of Palantir.
Large OP_RETURN directly benefit Citrea shitcoiners.
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@Jameson Lopp this you?
Yeah, dumbass. Go watch the full uncut interview where I explain why Citrea neither needed nor asked for the change.
core has failed in making everybody use bitcoin. because it is not there role.
what to point fingers at? other than core?
He just explained plain as day why the OP_RETURN change was totally unnecessary “an extreme edge case… only Citrea needs it at the moment…. Where someone needs to have visibility across the network in an unconfirmed state”
Tough shit! Who do the fuck do they think they are?
Core doesn't answer to plebs. You're going to need to fork.
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Fragility in the short term would be acceptable if catastrophic scenarios can be overwhelmingly mitigated.
Money and/or EGO. They took @ODELL VC money or they don’t want to look bad. But not realizing the mistake makes them look even worse. They are toast. They clearly think they control Bitcoin. And they just shot themselves in the foot.