As Assange said, we are lied into almost every war by the media.

Bulls eye as always Guy 🎯

I disagree. There are other incentives, namely mkney laundering in plain sight. And some "wars" aren't even "wars". War is used as a cover up for special military operation.....

Well that’s not true at all. Jihad is not about land or resources. They profess it is their responsibility to exact justice on the infidel. Sooo?

Islam doesn’t care about land or resources. Jihad is a holy war to them. He’s hardly correct.

I don’t agree. Wars can also stem from many other factors, such as ideological differences and, most importantly, religious beliefs. Yes, wars may involve land conquest, but the motivation can remain deeply and unconsciously religious. The conflict between Israel and Palestine goes even deeper than just controlling resources.

True. Religious folks have been spreading 'democracy' since the dawn of civilization

Only on #nostr 🤝

Many crusades were fought in the name of the holy. Of course it is about land and ressources — Whether it is to fight against occupied land, protect what was already acquired or expand.

It’s not of course. An occurrence of something does not prove a negative. The Quran teaches it is the responsibility of the Muslim to exact justice on the infidel.

Indoctrination is a hell of a drug.

Go read it. And the Hadithes.

Do you suspect money laundering might be about obtaining resources and controlling land? 🤔 Just for reference later, money is nothing but a proxy (a record keeping system) for resources, so when you say it’s “about money,” then it’s really “about resources.” 👍🏻

Ideological difference and religious difference are excuses for power. Thats what *the people* make it about. But the funding and resources that make that war possible, then propaganda that pushes people into their tiny boxes of non-thought, are all fueled by people who want power, resources, and land.

In other words, the ideological differences are just the excuse for hating and dehumanizing the people that have what you want.

This is their own making and they are cryin for the world for help, This is irresponsible thinking, victim personality at it's best

I know exactly what they say. You have to remember that the person who has authority to declare Jihad is a head of State...

put myself in those shoes & i walk away from slaughter! resources is the key, imho, Isreal & Palestine included/ most people just want to be happy with fam. & frens ime. check origin of war & those responsible thru history & i see the same theme

That’s asinine. The Quran was not written to “States”. And anybody with a following that is a believer of Islam can call for Jihad among his people. It is not some global authority recognition when Jihad is called for. If a man has a following and calls for Jihad, his following does not stand up and say, “No, no! You can’t because you’re not a state!” You have to remember… that the person who is able to read the Quran has autonomy. Move to Morocco and name your kid David, see what happens.

Fully aware that non nation states are declaring Jihad, of course but these croisades aren’t necessarily recognized by Islam as legitimate. The point I was making was in relation to the caliphate or state and their inherent interest in land/ressources. I suppose we can agree to disagree 🫂

You just got done writing that it is the States that declare Jihad because they have authority? You’re saying two different things. And to say that the actions of some that declare Jihad aren’t “recognized by Islam” is nonsensical. There is no elected voice to speak on behalf of Islam to say, “We don’t recognize that Jihad!”. That’s why you refer to the teaching of the Prophet Muhammad. And his teachings are that justice is to be exacted on the infidel by the followers of Islam.

There's such a thing as Islamic Law sir

Haha this will be good. And where does Islamic Law come from?

Of course the words of the prophet

And you have now circled back to make my argument.

That’s fine and all… intent of Jihad might be the exact justice on the infidel but I still fail to see how that can be exacted without violating property rights, incursions into lands etc.

Somewhat on topic: the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency is soon sending out a (new edition of a) pamphlet titled "If crisis or war comes" to all households. It's available in Swedish as PDF already, but English and other languages comes the 18:th of November. There are of course good parts, not least regarding what we can call light prepping, but I find parts of it somewhat amusing in a "look at yourselves" kind of way: A rough translation of a part of the introduction: "War - the uttermost threat against our freedom. When someone by force wants to grant themself the right to decide over us, it threatens our right to a free and independent life." It also has a chapter on "psychological defense", containing among other things: "Foreign powers and other actors outside of Sweden use disinformation, confusion and propaganda to affect us [...] those who want to affect us do so by - spreading lies and false stories, or stories that are partially true but taken out of their context [...] -arousing strong emotions regarding a topic or event in order to make us worried or suspicious of each other" And one of the solutions? "In case of a serious event, seek confirmed information from government authorities"

IA?