As a father I go out of my way to raise my children with the knowledge that all authority is illegitimate, even mine.
It creates some challenges lol 😂
But I’d rather have it this way than the opposite.
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Authority is like value itself… subjective and only really exists in our minds
Vlog about this topic would be interesting 👀
Father? WTF bro
Same I encourage my kids to challenge me and argue their position. When they have a solid argument that I cannot debate I let them have a win.
Slowly I need to show them that power and authority of the world does not operate in good faith .
That’s how you get blue haired, pussy hat wearing antifa. 😂
Good luck
This is the way.
God vested authority over children in parents. So yeah…you might want to “check your premises”
Teaching that "all authority is illegitimate," including and especially fatherhood/parenthood is unbiblical.
lol nah
Authority can be *wrong* but that doesn't mean all authority is illegitimate. Parents are maybe the most legitimate authority in the world. Governments and laws are the ones with legitimacy problems.
Classic postmodernism, subjectivism, make-your-own-truth nonsense.
I get checked all the time by a very aware 16yo
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As a father and a Christian I raise my children to understand that the only legitimate forms of human authority have been delegated by God and they become illegitimate to the extent that they opposes, contradicts, or becomes more restrictive than him. In short, it is better to obey God rather than men, but God does put people in legitimate authority over us. Nevertheless we should respect and obey them only insofar as they are in conformity with God's revealed will.
You as a father can exemplify directly how your discipline is for their their benefit. The government has no fucking clue how the 12k they take from me is directly impacting my ability to live a comfortable life. That said, raise ungovernables.
That's a harder parenting framework than most people realize. Teaching kids that authority requires justification rather than compliance is simple to state and genuinely difficult to implement — because it means you get interrogated too, which is exactly the point. The kids who learn to apply that standard consistently end up being the ones who notice when monetary policy decisions are dressed up as technocratic consensus.
I have a son who understands that and I let him know that it's okay even though it's hard sometimes. lol
Gay take
If you call yourself a christian, your household is a righteous dictatorship
Not to raise little retarded anarchists
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love you, but don’t your hold a correction past when it becomes an overcorrection.
it’s not an either or type of issue.
logically both either or extremes are invalid because they run u head first into impasses.
the middle way is harder, and yes you will never stay perfectly on your heading, so you have to be aware and consistently make adjustments when what brings u back on course takes you off course.
this demonstrates the need for our next book 👀
big things coming
I think a major primary responsibility of parents is to “train out“ any behaviours that they see in their child that make other humans not like them. Things can be debated once relationships or negotiations have been begun, but nobody gets very far in this world if everybody that meets them thinks they are an asshole.
That’s a bold way to raise them, and honestly pretty powerful.
Teaching kids to question everything (even you) isn’t easy, but it builds real independence and critical thinking. Yeah, it might get chaotic sometimes 😄 but those are the kids who grow up thinking for themselves, not just following the crowd.
Respect 👊
Agreed 👏🏻 what happened to pride in raising creative, respectful, self sufficient, rational children?
Thank you for saying this! Seems that most of the world is hell bent on running to two extremes in answer to every issue
I like this approach, I try to raise my kids to be rational. So it’s okay for them to ask some questions of me when they don’t like the decision, my word is still final, I’m the parent and they are the child, but better that they question things sometimes rather than never question or question all the time as OP is insinuating.
Parents hold the most legitimate broad authority precisely because children lack the maturity to avoid self-destructive choices. Government’s role is narrower — protecting the rights of rational adults. The confusion between the two is because people who want government to parent them are already behaving like children
Biblically speaking there is no authority that hasn’t been allowed by God to begin with aka render to Caesar what is Caesar’s. But I feel you
That shit ain’t true
Stop hodl he literally meant "give have of everything productive you do to the state"
tried to zap but i don’t think ur wallet is set up.
but yeah, 🙏 thanks
freedom and sovereignty are sometimes messy with humans :)
Everything that has ever and will ever happen, including every despicable evil thing, is only so because God allows it. Hope this helps.
Ya I’m just speaking about the sovereignty of God. Every ruler whether good or bad, has been allowed by God. It’s the same concept that God allowed Satan to do what he did to Job. God is sovereign over all things.
I've raised mine with the same knowledge that there's a line I can't cross. Their property including their body is theirs & my preferences do not automatically override theirs just because I'm their father.
Mine are adults now & I think we've walked that line fairly well. They've felt the pain of making less than wise decisions first hand. They have little resistance from us & feel no great need for rebellion against our limited rules.
Being a parent & a freedom maximalist is interesting at times.
Haha 😂 thanks for pointing that out, I’m a recent refugee from X, and am lost in the clunky interface
Number one pain point of BTC, you have to know how to use tech to get the full benefits…
The only authority worth following is the one actively teaching you to stop following it. You're not raising kids. You're building verification systems.
Outside of god the father
Doesn't mean we aren't supposed to fight it....
I am in a voluntary relationship at work in which I am under the authority of my boss...is that authority illegitimate?
Well you’ve granted them authority over you, which is your choice.
But yes their authority is illegitimate in a broader sense
Nice
Upper‑class/wealthier parents, on average, use more reasoning, explanation, and back‑and‑forth discussion with children, which builds skills related to negotiation, self‑advocacy, and agency. It takes more time, energy and patience as a parent to do this, but our children learn to continuously negotiate better outcomes for themselves throughout their lives. It leads to higher educational attainment, better networking, and higher level leadership roles. They also pass this mentality/skillset on to their children, and it perpetuates on down the line.
Lower‑income parents, on average, place emphasis on obedience, respect for authority, and following directives.
Sounds about right
I thought you were a Christian? Do you read the Bible at all, this post goes against Christian teachings.
I didn’t trust it at all at first, but turns out it’s legit… crazy times
I like your #btc content!
As a father this is tough
It is lol
Even the anarchist thesis is not that *all* authority is illegitimate, but all *unjustified* authority, and we should keep questioning all such justifications. Parental authority is perhaps the most and most easily justifiable. For it is the aim of parental authority to make itself redundant.