To be fair to the parent, they probably know why the kid is crying even if you didn't see them check in any obvious way. Any parent has an always running mental state of their kids modeled. When they ate, pooped, drank, all of it. Of course I wouldn't even put tik tok into my own brain, that is a separate issue.

Civilization is broken. it’s beyond scary. You can only make it better with your own kids.

Grim.

That’s my goal. Taking on 100% responsibility to make that happen

You are already on the right path. Keep going.

That’s the power of the entertainment industry. Distract us from the real world and the issues it carries.

Some people really shouldn’t have children. Terrible.🤦‍♂️

Centralized social networks are entertainment industry. They disconnect us from the world and from one another.

Reminds me of Louis C.K talking about pulling over in his car and resisting the urge to numb his emotions with his phone and instead just crying.

My worst nightmare is turning my kid into a zombie that’s captivated by cell phones It’s a poor source of dopamine that we keep loaded in our pockets at all times that has changed the human award structure in an unhealthy way, and starting children off on that path of reliance is unhealthy

To be fair this is a tough situation to be in. I understand the horrible part of giving a phone to a child, but sometimes is the only choice you have if you are in public. If you don’t and the kid keeps crying what do you get? People making faces at you and the kid for disturbing their shopping experience, or you get judge because you are trying to calm the kid to avoid this; either way you are judged. We should be kinder when we see this, and understanding of the situation

Short videos are so Fiat 🤢

What do you with your children when they are crying in public?

Check this pic I took while at a restaurant recently. It's horrifying.

Talk, hug, comfort, hold. You know... parenting things.

You're a fucking retard if you think the only two options are brainrot via screens or just letting them cry.

Noooh

Where are the moms + dads on nostr? The question came up how to deal with your kid crying / acting up in public. View quoted note →

Pull the stroller over, acknowledge their feeling of ______ give them a hug tell them its ok, explain as many times as needed to let the child understand that its ok to feel that way but we cant keep crying. Find a snack, drink, a toy. Only move forward when they are ready to.

At some point you'll need to introduce them to money

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Let the people judge. If your kid is beyond reason its time to leave the situation. I judge 100% the action of giving the phone. The crying part, every parent has been there. You calm your child, attend to their needs.

What's on that phone? Do you know? Do you understand that it makes a difference?

Sure buddy

Came here to say this. Don't judge the only moment you witness of a child with their parent.

parent understood the assignment. 😂

+1

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Sounds like you have a lot of anger inside 😊

Terminator 2: Judgment Day

Screens away by @Patrick Corcoran & @John Corcoran coming soon. Video by @Jonny Kanone Music subliminally influences people for good or bad. Our goal is to blast this song out so the next gen and ours subconsciously awaken to the detriment of the screens and the next time they go to look, this song pops in their head. Using the screen to free humanity from it. View quoted note →

Fine by me. The kid will have to fight in that war when they grow up, need to start teaching them who is on which side and why early.

I'll be back.

It's a problem. Kids can't stop watching videos grow up and can't stop Tiking or Toking while driving.😱

Tbf when my kids were that age I just couldn't take them to any nice restaurants. That is also fine. We'd get a babysitter.

Wow

There is this saying: if you want your child‘s childhood to end give them a screen. It’s tough for parents these days though. There’s no time for proper parenting anymore in today’s society. Can’t judge them individually. View quoted note →

This is all to common, i see it all the time. You might as well hook them up to a morphine drip, it’s abuse.

My wife always brings just tons of no mess activities in a bag

Boarding schools are underrated 😂

The poor kid is jonesing

Teach 'em young to avoid the slightest discomfort by distracting with a cancerous non-native EMF machine, nevermind the brainrot content they are looking at. They don't know it's basically child abuse and that's the problem.

Phones are not bad. People use phones badly. 🙂

There’s zero excuse letting a child check out on a phone to avoid having a human emotion. Are you serious? This is what frustrates the hell out of me. People can be all in on Bitcoin, Christianity, Community or whatever else is needed to re-build a strong society but meanwhile their kids are glued to screens, drop their kids off at public school & eat the standard American diet. Wake the fuck up!!!! Our enemies have infiltrated our food, media, education system.

If avoiding judgement is more important to you than your kids emotions, then the fault is on you to begin with. There are several valid ways to deal with this type of situation in public, but probably all of them include severe judgement from people. And in front of my kids well-being and their emotions, people can go fuck themselves. I'll use that stage to teach my kid all the valuable lessons available in that situation while also acknowledging that *I* am the reason they're in an uncomfortable situation at a time where they didn't have the mental capacity to be in that situation.

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People forget the whole thing and just focus on what makes them triggered. I acknowledge giving a phone to a kid is horrible (see my initial comment). My point is: if you see this happening and they are strangers to you, just mind your own business and learn from that: don’t do it to your kids. As a bitcoiner just stay humble and let normies live their lives. You don’t go around judging and getting triggered by everyone. If know them and care about them, offer help and advise, if not, just mind your own business; no need for disapproving looks

Aww but it's ok to cry. It feels good to cry. (There is a great song by Jules that says this). I think it's important to instill that nothing changes just because you're crying. You won't get something I said no to, etc, but feel your feelings and let them pass through you.

Also very acceptable in my opinion. Crying doesn't fix anything but it can be a good release of emotions

Imagine how easy it will be for your child to succeed in a world where these screen addicted, attention span measured in nano seconds type of children are the kids your child will one day be competing with

The same way people use heroin badly.

haha

Hahaha. Seriously though, you can see the difference between the two… can you😉

In that the hardware, in and of itself, is essentially harmless, yes. The wholesale subsidization of said hardware (and thus rapid proliferation) has been propelled by software so psychologically addictive that it would make Edward Bernays blush.

Agreed that some of the software experience is as addictive on pocket computers as it is on desktops. The reason I originally pushed back was that it wasn’t clear if the OP was wanting to throw the baby out with the bath water. It sounds like you are able to easily see the difference between a social media app and a video editor. I am often suspicious of someone who promotes a wholesale negative view of a mobile phone (pocket computer) because it really does scream lack of personal responsibility. On a slightly different note, I guess these types of conversations will escalate as the phone is challenged by smart glasses. Just imagine how much attention they will consume when the tech matures! Cheers 😃

And people also hand babies pacifiers when they cry. Adults attempting to distract children rather than respecting their complaints is nothing new. If you want to say "phone bad" then you should either justify why treating children this way is wrong (it is) or you should find a different example of phone bad.

No, heroin is bad because it is an exogenous ligand that interferes with people's internal signaling. There's not a right way to use heroin, alcohol, nicotine, caffiene, anti-inflammatory pills, or any other such exogenous ligand.

Beat them until they stop crying.

Okay, you believe people should mind their own business. Do you think phones are an acceptable solution to a kid who is crying in public? Should people judge a parent whose kid is crying in public?

Agreed. Nuance is often lost. Also agree that something like smart glasses (or other AR devices) are going to accelerate this.

Phones are bad for kids; however I can only control what I do with my kids. Other kids are not my business, who am I to judge? Some sort of high righteous power? What happened to kindness? Let them worry about their journey. To be honest I f**ing hate people judging and making nasty looks to my kids when in public as they might be loud and energetic

Wow. That’s a fucked up take. “Disturbing their shopping experience” 😂

Is this a serious question?

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I'll give you something to cry about?

Same topic 🥺 soooooooo sad

Dang it, looks like my post got stuck in "drafts". Oh well, now I'm necro-posting for posterity. Don't feel the need to reply, if I was still invested then I would have re-written this. Judging is awesome. The only way we are able to make decisions at all is by judging the actions we have available to us. And the only way we can learn from past mistakes is by judging past actions. Judinging other people's actions specifically is called learning things the easy way. The hard way is having to learn from one's own past. Humans are incredibly adapted social creatures, to the point where even when we absolutely hate someone's guts, we will STILL subconaciously base our responses on the premise of having some kind of practical dialogue with them. If someone is punched, why do you think they feel a strong urge to punch them back? Sure they are upset, but far more than that they are confused. Why did they get punched? What did they do wrong? What was the other person trying to accomplish? Did the other person make a mistake? They feel the urge to punch the other person back in order to hopefully find out the answer to those questions. They are "teaching the other person a lesson", but they are just as much trying to learn a lesson themselves. After all if they had considered getting punched as a serious possibility then they wouldn't be angry; they would just be disappointed. To be clear: dispensing some kind of ironic retribution is not even close to an ideal response to being wronged. Even afterward it's very easy for both sides to come out learning nothing useful. Ideally the victim isn't ignorant and confused in the first place, but even then there are often other ways to engage with the other person's behavior and figure out how things are. In your case, the people around you might be subjected to a crying child, and so they feel compelled to It sounds like the reason you dislike being judged isn't because judging is wrong, but because you are simply insecure and you don't want to have to engage with this kind of public dialogue, no matter how relevant it is to your life.

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