High value woman: unspoiled, clean, gentle, strong father, loving mother, no baggage (trauma, debt, exes, STDs, career, travel, little external male friends/sponsors), belief in love and goodness, modest (secure with humility). Low value woman: ran through, well traveled, tatted, absent father, hardened mother, "be strong so men can't exploit you", hyper spiritual, many external male friends/sponsors, immodest (insecure with "pride"). #MasculineFrame image

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Trishy 5 months ago
To be honest, it sounds like you’re looking for somebody that can’t compare your bad sex to anybody else or talk to their friends about it because they don’t have any. Unspoiled? Clean? No baggage? Is that you? I have heard it said that you should try to be the things that you seek. I wish you well and pray for you.
So in your mind, the ideal state is having loads of premarital sex so that you can compare your husband to it and gossip with your friends?
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Trishy 5 months ago
I think a woman having friends is a good idea
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Trishy 5 months ago
Why do you wanna know? Does the answer or the thought of it turn you on
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Trishy 5 months ago
Comparing cock says is a dude thing. Not really a woman thing so much.
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Trishy 5 months ago
Also, cock size has very little to do with good or bad sex. That is something that little boys think.
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Virtus 5 months ago
I would venture to guess that he absolutely wants someone who can't compare, because "bad sex" is really any sex outside of the covenant of marriage.
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Trishy 5 months ago
So when he’s talking about having a virgin woman, I’m assuming he’s a virgin. I think if you’re coming from that point of view that’s awesome but I don’t think he is.
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Trishy 5 months ago
Are you a virgin, Mr. laser?
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Virtus 5 months ago
Unspoiled is a way of saying "have not slept around". Ought a man desire that his wife be a woman who has joined herself to multiple other men before him? Ought a woman see the height of sexual experience as "good sex" with men who don't love them enough to covenant with them in marriage, have children with them, be fiercely monogamous, and build a life together?
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Trishy 5 months ago
I think that’s a beautiful idea. I just think it should go both ways and that if a man is looking for a “pure” woman he himself should be that. I have nothing against virgin marrying. I have something against a man saying he’s looking for a pure woman with no friends.
A whore and a pimp aren't both good people because they're both awash in sin. What makes people good is turning away from sin, which requires identifying it. You seem to be proud and "empowered" by all the sex you had without your husband. You should be ashamed of it, not reveling online. A good step in the right direction would be to extoll virtue instead of shaming your husband on the internet.
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Trishy 5 months ago
I haven’t mentioned anything about my sex life. I simply suggested that a woman have friends to speak with. You seem fairly obsessed about my sex life. I wish you well you don’t seem it.
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Virtus 5 months ago
He said what he said, not what he didn't say. No one is arguing a double standard that it is good for men to sleep around. Also, nothing was said about a woman not having friends. The point is no close male friends who act as sponsors and no gossip long the female friends.
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Trishy 5 months ago
That was the whole reason I responded
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nobody 5 months ago
Things he said: a woman should be pure and not have external MALE friends as sponsors Things he didn’t say: men should sleep around and women should have zero friends. You know we can read the whole thread right? This is why women don’t belong in public discourse you get all emotional and make shit up to try to control other peoples thoughts.
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Virtus 5 months ago
"Little external *male* friends/sponsors" is all that was espoused. The point is whoredom, not whether a woman has a lot of other female friends.
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Trishy 5 months ago
Wow, you really do hate women. I feel sorry for you. That is not godly at all.
I've written a post stating the obvious: that women with a deep sex life have debased their own value, and you have been triggered by it. Not unreasonable to read between the lies: you are proud of your dirty sex life and angry with me for making you feel shame.
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Trishy 5 months ago
I don’t know why you think I’m angry. From the beginning, I have only felt pity for you and pity for any woman who is in relationship with you if you think of her that way. I wish for any woman that is with you that you are pure Though you don’t seem so to me.
100%. It's sad so many women have been deceived to think the opposite. By the time they come to their senses, they're in their 40's, ridden hard, tattoos everywhere, and still being used by men. Zero appeal as a wife. But they still believe they are empowered and on top. Just a little more reiki, tarot, and crystals... That should turn it around
100%. It's sad so many women have been deceived to think the opposite. By the time they come to their senses, they're in their 40's, ridden hard, tattoos everywhere, and still being used by men. Zero appeal as a wife. But they still believe they are empowered and on top. Just a little more reiki, tarot, and crystals... That should turn it around
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High value woman: unspoiled, clean, gentle, strong father, loving mother, no baggage (trauma, debt, exes, STDs, career, travel, little external male friends/sponsors), belief in love and goodness, modest (secure with humility). Low value woman: ran through, well traveled, tatted, absent father, hardened mother, "be strong so men can't exploit you", hyper spiritual, many external male friends/sponsors, immodest (insecure with "pride"). #MasculineFrame image
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nobody 5 months ago
Ya they act like Jesus was just a total pushover and not the embodiment of justice mercy and virtue They don’t know about the Gospel of Mark They don’t understand the Holy Trinity by definition means that he destroyed Soddom for lack of virtue
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Diyana 5 months ago
Alright, let’s look closely at this one. It’s a compact manifesto in meme form, and it really exposes the scaffolding of Laser’s worldview: --- 1. The Binary Split He creates two caricatures of women: High value woman = unspoiled, clean, gentle, modest, sheltered, dependent on strong family structures, no “baggage,” no career, no travel, minimal male contact, humble. Low value woman = sexually experienced, tattooed, independent, well-traveled, expressive, spiritual, hardened, surrounded by men, immodest, prideful. 👉 This is a binary, reductionist framework. Women are split into “Madonna” or “Whore” archetypes — with no room for complexity, growth, or integration. --- 2. Psychological Layers Projection of fear: The “low value” list is actually a list of traits that signal female autonomy (travel, tattoos, spirituality, male friends). Autonomy is unpredictable to him, so he casts it as dangerous or degraded. Purity myth: He equates worth with being “unspoiled.” This is an ancient patriarchal trope where a woman’s value lies in how little life she’s touched before being “claimed.” Trauma inversion: He labels trauma as baggage, ignoring the resilience and wisdom that can emerge from healing. Fragility = valued, integration = suspect. Spirituality dig: “Hyper spiritual” is dismissed as a flaw — likely because it orients a woman toward her own compass instead of patriarchal authority. --- 3. The Historical Irony The painting he uses undermines his point: Renaissance women like the one pictured were often well-traveled, highly educated, and “sponsored” by wealthy male patrons. Many of the most famous were courtesans — celebrated for wit, artistry, and influence. So his chosen image actually depicts the very “low value” traits he condemns. And historically? Tattoos, travel, and ritual adornment are among the oldest human traditions — linked to rites of passage, protection, identity, and spiritual belonging. Flattening them into “low value” is more about modern puritanical anxieties than ancient wisdom. --- 4. The Core Tell This isn’t really about women’s “value.” It’s about control vs. unpredictability. Women who are easy to contain, dependent, and modest = “safe.” Women who are expressive, resilient, and self-directed = “threat.” --- ✨ Bottom line: This post reveals more about Laser’s need for certainty and containment than about women. His “high value woman” is basically a man’s fantasy of control, not an actual human being. The irony is, the Renaissance woman he chose probably lived a life far closer to his “low value” list — and history still remembers her with admiration. View quoted note →
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Trishy 5 months ago
Are you virtuous? I have studied the Bible since I was a young girl. What I have been asking is… Are you virtuous? You have not answered my question. If you are married, were you a virgin when you married your wife? If you are not married, are you a virgin now? This question seems difficult for you to answer, but that has been my only question since the beginning of this thread… Are you pure?
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Trishy 5 months ago
Are you virtuous? I have studied the Bible since I was a young girl. What I have been asking is… Are you virtuous? You have not answered my question. If you are married, were you a virgin when you married your wife? If you are not married, are you a virgin now? This question seems difficult for you to answer, but that has been my only question since the beginning of this thread… Are you pure?
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Trishy 5 months ago
You seem very curious about my sex life or you seem to think you know something about it. Tell me about yours… did you save yourself for your wife?
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nobody 5 months ago
You’ve studied it and yet you are apoplectic for Laser pointing out the obvious conclusions you’d draw from having studied it. Why?
It is a bit weird to be so engrossed in someone’s sexual history, it’s somewhat synonymous with those that make sexual orientation the entirety of their identity.
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Trishy 5 months ago
Hahaha you are trying to lump me into some category of woke. Good luck.
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Trishy 5 months ago
I think a woman asking the question of whether or not you are the purity you seek is threatening to you
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Trishy 5 months ago
At least it seems so by your big emotional responses
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Trishy 5 months ago
But why does he have to ask in such a disgusting way? Comparing cock size and that
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Trishy 5 months ago
He could ask me more politely and he might get a nicer answer
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Trishy 5 months ago
Also, sexual history is really what matters to this conversation
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Shay 5 months ago
What was that religion the promises you seventy two "high-value women" in the after-life? 😅
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Shay 5 months ago
"rules for thee no for me"
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Trishy 5 months ago
I think the whole world is suffering from unaligned incentives. We should have compassion for and teach people not to waste themselves with people who don’t care about them or don’t value them. I think we should teach young women and men how to take care of themselves and their soul by being respectful to themselves and others. When two young people fall in love, they may explore it physically. I do not think it is for a father to decide who he will “ give his daughter to” unless it is her will to have him decide. And if people choose to keep virginity until marriage, that is beautiful. I don’t personally associate that choice to mean that a person is defiled, unless they in fact, have defiled themselves by being assholes and disrespectful to one another. I think sex is spiritually sanctioned between two people who loved one another. No defilement needed. And for those who I perceive as having low self-esteem who squander their sexual energy, it is not for me to judge. I love the Jesus who breaks bread with prostitutes and tax collectors. The fag, hating woman controlling Jesus is not my favorite.
Let’s see here… strong father✅Loving mother✅ no tattoos ✅ love and goodness ✅ Uh ohh, exes, career, travel, male friends. I’m out! 🤣