have any of you ditched mobile phone for laptop only?
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Ditched laptop for mobile only
Janine Roem did
Not yet. What clients would you recommend for that? And why?
the nsa thanks you
I've tried going down the rabbit hole of making a pocket sized Linux PC that could replace my phone, the hardware isn't there. Serious question jack, you thought about starting a semiconductor fab? There are ways to acquire the equipment and expertise outside of going straight to asml/lamb/gigaphoton if you know who to ask. Finding buyers for the silicon seems like the biggest issue, I'm sure a high percentage of people here would want anything produced, but you would presumably need to move tens of thousands of units each just to justify the lithography masks.
No. Unlikely to happen here
Sounds crazy
you would have no way of knowing -
No, but a minimalist launcher with only 6 apps on home + clock & calendar helped me a lot.
Try Olauncher for a week and then a month if it wasn't that difficult. Not gonna lie living out of X was also a good move.
considered but concluded it's counter-productive...better to mold phone to be less addictive than avoid entirely. change launcher to emphasize easy access to healthy apps, don't install some apps at all, etc.
Forced to use a mobile for work, trusty x230 for everything else. When you're travelling anywhere in public and see how much of an addiction they have become, makes you think twice. Must be near on impossible for younger gen's to give them up seeing as though they have them from the moment they start annoying their parents.
Two things that really trap people in to the phone
1. Camera
2. Always needing to be connected for work
5g has been a complete scam. Tax funding for the ability to pin point people at all times with 0 benefit to the consumer. We paying more for the privledge to be spied on.
I try to find ways to just use my mini laptop but society always finds ways to make you carry your chip aka the smartphone everywhere.
Does it exist? I have a lot to learn you yet
Can be in a romantic way
yes. this has been an epiphany for me. primal as a constant open tab kills everything for me.
No. Gotta call my mama!
Impossible.
Can't ditch it completely. Need it for login verification and stuff.
If the problem is security or privacy then I tryed out this setup:
phone 1 security:
LineageOS or GrapheneOS with SIM card and only Signal installed plus the other preinstalled apps (calendar, camera, calculator etc). Of course you have to keep it updated.
This setup allow me to use a phone for calling and chatting only with my family members or closed friends. With this setup I personally use the phone at minimum, just when I really need it.
phone 2 privacy:
There is something I missed (navigator/maps, browser, wallet etc) so I did a second phone, a privacy oriented phone (with LineageOS or GrapheneOS) without SIM card. Airplane mode always on and only WiFi, everything is torrified. Navigator with offline maps and gps on (OsmAnd~).
With these two phones setup I have phone 1 for my real life, secure. phone 2 for everything else, privacy oriented.
Consideration:
- I would like to have a linux phone (a device like my pc to keep with me) cause i can have real pc privacy and security.
I think the question was not about security and privacy but detox from having a phone to keep real life and connection first.
I thought a lot about this and I think there is something that I would miss:
- calls from my family/close friends (impossible to have a pc always with you, wifi connected with signal or something else)
- navigator/maps (i tryed old garmin navigator but it's crap and maps are updated annualy i think)
I would love to have friends that doesen't care if i don't answer the phone for more that 12 hours but now people are worried.
I personally think that the closest and smartest way to detox is having only a phone 1.
optional having phone 2 with offline maps.
Tips:
- with PC you can emulate android apps if you really need
- for two factor auth you can use a blockstream jade or an offline old phone to keep at home
I have a question for you @jack if you want answer.
Do people in your position buy a secure phone for family and close friends? If yes do you trust that people keep it clean and updated?
I was thinking in the future about giving an additional linux phone to close friends/family, just to keep my close connections secure. I want to have root access to these devices so I can update and manage everything. I don't trust their security setup, most of them now have android outdated and who knows which keyboard or bloatware installed.
cool design, will look in to
Laptop is more expensive.
No, but I have thought of disabling my sims/mobile data and going wifi-only for calls and data.
This is not true
I am considering switching my I phone for a dumb phone as well… just for calls and texts on the go.
We need a dumb flip phone option that has the lightning network built in to it??
And then yeah everything else on laptop?
I wouldn't mind only if my laptop had a two day battery, and I can use my smartwatch to call
seriously contemplating it if I can be bothered to learn how to emulate a phone on a laptop I guess, the phone's increasingly walled gardens is becoming kinda... sad to watch in real time.
Not feasible on 3rd world countries like mine. It's the other way around. Always has been.
I did .. It is my third year running .. Never missed the smart(er) device :-) though whenever I travel to India , I have a mobile phone there ..
I am bold but I am not crazy :-)
Thought about it, but the UX for paying LN invoices on a go isn't great...
Cool! What do you use it for? I’m also interested in the spectrum 🤓
MacBook
I just use a pinephone and Framework laptop.
https://frame.work/
I don't believe in vendor lock-in.
https://pine64.org/devices/pinephone/
I ditched laptops for tablets :)
🦸🏻♀️
Yeah, for a year, then I needed a Square device so had to get a phone again.
i could manage easily with 5G and whatsapp calls
desktop only. iris.to
feels better on a big screen to me.
Only laptop for me
A tiny laptop... 🤔isn't that a fab flip?
My crypto portfolio needs a mobile phone 😒
At my desk I only use a PC - Linux flavour 😉
i wish i could - no secure internet connection available. using oldest phone with modem i could find - bit of home brew - not ideal and still very dodgy but eng's do what we can with what we got to hand. what about you ? dont say tmi youll freek me out Mwahahahahahahah
Not for social media but for anything else yes
For Nostr you mean?
Yes Primal + @Alby is the key.
Social Media on the phone is a only a distraction.
Yes and it's minimized my time wasted on scrolling, by 50%
Not entirely, about 90%. Use mobile to transact BTC & LN and also to demo nostr when I’m out & about.
I find it healthy to not use my mobile when I am face to face with humans 😉
On mobile mostly cus need horizontal position. But on Linux laptop when serious. Why?
Not yet but I've been seriously considering it.
Trying to
Couldn’t get my keys to work on snort
Negative.
Hell no
We are blue collar plebs dude. We don't sit behind a desk. Stack Sats.
but then, what would you do for a camera? 😂
Still using whatsapp? Why not SimpleX?
it has voice calls?
Yes, a few years a go I replaced my smartphone with a flip phone.
yes, it does
😂
Not yet but I thinking about it
that's definitely something to consider 💡
I got a refurbished thinkpad x1 for $200 and installed linux. Runs like a dream, only regret is I didnt get it sooner.
I also use a pixel phone with GrapheneOS installed which I use the Amethyst app to access for nostr.
I like this idea. My old eyes need a larger screen
I can't use Laptop while I am poop 💩 so I prefer phone instead 😅
That image is from the Librem 5 blog... I use the same setup for secure communications. The nexdock is also useful attached different SoC boards or mini headless setups.
I use Punkt. MP02 and laptop for work only.
Gradually deleting some mobile apps & reclaiming some off-screen time for 1-1 conversations.
As a native desktop user, I don't know how anyone can live on mobile phone only in the developed world, its a very small and limited window. Understandably, its different in undeveloped places.
That's a very interesting perspective that I never considered. I use my phone to look up info when i'm on the go or call someone.
A mobile is great for onboarding people to Bitcoin and Lightning.
I ditched my phone for a phablet long ago.
Yes, but only for nostr use unless someone can explain how to use without exposing my private key...
no… it’s nice to have maps
and apple wallet
for nostr yes; also any focused/productive web activity
Différents devices according to the things and the activities
The winning trio: TV + LT + SP
No - neither the iPad
If I could carry a larger device, I would ditch the phone. My RSI and muscle strain is killing me.
Phone here 📱
Same
No
Would ditch phone if tablet had cellular (voice).
No, i need a computer that i can carry around in my pocket.
That’s a good idea to prevent distraction
I always have my laptop nearby.
actually been doing it way more often
some years ago this would be way more cumbersome, but laptops are incredibly light nowadays
and while their versatility is still superior to mobile phones, they are catching up
would be a dream come true but wife wont allow it 🙁
lol
laptop fired up. 🤭😂✌🏻 just haven't needed it.
the real one. 💻
but do you have an anti-radiation defender shield for your laptop? that's the real question.
Not yet
What’s SP?
that's your next purchase.
amazing
This has been my main setup for a year.
actually put an iphone to the left and android to the right of this chromebook 10e by lenovo and am able to solve most issues and can toggle between my three brains…
Keyboard is microsoft designer compact. 
I started with two chrome tablets (which seem to be end of life) primarily because they run linux.
And was acknowledgement of my final cloud stuck in, google…
The first one was pure chromebook and the 2nd one was ripping out the software stack for pure linux ;) left that one in portugal in a suitcase…
And these chromebooks good because can use usb-c to hdmi cable to screen when in hotel rooms globally.
rather opposite - almost stopped to use my laptop, as almost everything can be done on phone (besides work)
What about a razor?
Can’t, I’ma trucker so my phone is essential
what for?
Is it because of distractions? I carry the mobile phone less and less with me, very close ditching it…
Wow. That’s a thought.
And I was proud of myself for ditching X.
To be fair, the “X” made it easy. 😂
More inclined to do the opposite
I miss handheld/pocketable laptops
What was the pocketable laptop?
👀
That reminds me of my old Palm I used to have. It had a metallic blue and silver case. Those where cool times.
I missed my Vaio P
The mini laptops…like 8” screens. Was a really quick fad 10-12 years or so ago.
GPD makes some cool pocketable laptops like this Micro PC and the Pocket 3.
I liked the Sharp Zaurus SL-C* line the best.
the irony of the digital vagina: it's not supposed to be functional and only meant to be decorative. lmfao.
vox.com/2016/9/19/12865560/politics-of-pockets-suffragettes-women
I think I still have one
Me too, but the specs are not good enough for use these days
(I did consider it for bootstrapping my new system tho)
Les filtres existent et ceux qui rechercnt un ordinateur de poches regardez la nouvelle gamme Samsung chère certes avec l'écran qui se plie ..j'ai toujours été fan de Samsung cependant d'autres sur l'Asie créent de bons produits moins chers que Samsung depuis j'ai arrêté mon obsession pour cette marque dont les grands site de fabrication sont au Vietnam
Potable ou portable !?
Les filtres existent et ceux qui rechercnt un ordinateur de poches regardez la nouvelle gamme Samsung chère certes chères avec l'écran qui se plie ..j'ai toujours été fan de Samsung cependant d'autres sur l'Asie créent de bons produits moins chers que Samsung depuis j'ai arrêté mon obsession pour cette marque dont les grands site de fabrication sont au Vietnam
Trop gros non pour moi la poche peut-être pour les pantalons à poches de baroudeur que j'ai coutume de mettre durant mes périples, qui d'ailleurs revenus à la mode lors des derniers défilés haute couture pour ces 2 prochaines années .
Samsung est l'un des meilleurs mais exagéré sur les prix de plus dans les nouveaux portables il y en peu sur lesquels on peut observer des cartes micro sd ils firent tous à aller dans le cloud alors qu'il est utile de stocker sur des disques durs externes Qu'elle entente machiavélique de ces fabricateurs-vendeurs de plus ce fut plus Steve Jobs qui a initié cette démarche chez Nokia, Motorola ou Erickson ils n'en faisaient un marché de Tune pour un gars qui était fan des Rois de Dieux tels que Stewart Brand du WEC (Whole Earth Catalog) un héritage de ces Géants de la Californie
Why? Nope!
I Have, for the most part. Feeling like taking back control of my time.
Considering ditching the modem from a mobile phone (e.g. PinePhone or Librem 5). Application development can be offline-first, as with most desktop apps. Portability is retained.
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I once tried iPad mini only for a while.
I feel the phone format biases towards frivolous usage because its just too small to be productive.
Now that the seed has been planted, I want to!
Its a bit impractical in the pocket of my trousers
Do you mean for just Nostr stuff or for everything?
i have. my phone is mostly for calls only now
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