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Nice! I will probably use this, it could also work great for moving stuff to untrusted devices using one-off sign in with nip 46
Sir, il have you know i use an empty group chat on telegram to transfer my stuff🧐
I know, I'm keeping an eye on you, Sir.
The app works, excellent.
Now finish it:
Unfortunately it doesn't work inside keychat
Anyway, is it more secure than personal.relays.land ?
What do you mean with "inside keychat"?
Everything is encrypted and no metadata are exposed, by default it uses your write relays (or a couple of fallback if no one of your relays accept kind 33301/2).
You can add personal.relays.land to your relays, and it will be used.
I was thinking about this use case, let me know if it works well!
Well, the web version is a just backup solution, for a such app you should use the native option.
Anyway, I will investigate.
I've been using nip 17 to myself but this is perfect
Have it installing now! Will report back. This is going to be way better than trying to share files with syncthing
They are already available, just right-click/tap the note.
Yeah thank you works fine on the app. but the browser version on mobile is weird. the "right-click/tap" is not working consistently for me.
Oh, right, I forgot this use case, I consider the web version only a fallback for desktop.
if your are on android you should run the native app.
Anyway, I will fix it.
i tried that first. That's why I though there is no context menu. It is nice to get access to your notes on someone else's device / a device where you don't want or can't install apps. works nice with bunker. My friend just put some ideas into my notes on his device. Probably an edge case.
"Verba volant, scripta..." 🤙
Lo metterai anche su Zapstore?
Ci sarà una interfaccia dark mode?
Io ho il mio blossom server, quindi ogni cosa sarà salvata lì ed eventualmente cancellata?
Grazie mille 🙏
I didn’t push too hard tonight on getting it working… the agent had some trouble getting it working on a headless server (trouble with browser and log-in). Interface looks nice though!
> Lo metterai anche su Zapstore?
Dire proprio di si.
> Ci sarà una interfaccia dark mode?
Prima stabilizzo le funzioni base e poi inizio a litigare con il dark mode :)
> Io ho il mio blossom server, quindi ogni cosa sarà salvata lì ed eventualmente cancellata?
Esatto. Se lo segnali correttamente con il kind:10063 viene automaticamente rilevato e lo vedi indicato nel profilo insieme ai relay.
love it. some bugs on keychat browser: have to tap submit twice if keyboard is open, can't upload if I start typing, can't long press for edit/delete.
are big files encrypted if they are uploaded to blossom? as for relay selection noticed it uses outbox, would it make sense to use private inbox relays if available?
super useful app, I see myself using it a lot!
can we have voice notes too? I haven't tried the native app, only web
What is the event kind? Spec?
Help me think out the private version of communities and you'll have every content type you want, for you/your family/your teams.
Voice notes, chat, tasks, music, calendar, ....
You write gibberish ser. Very good.
Nostr Markdown?
Still have to pick a kind for :note: Notes so might use this too then.
haven't added decryption to
@grimoire yet so can't tell :lul:
in theory NIP-17 & Marmot can do all event kinds. NIP-17 doesn't scale to communities tho.
Tremendous! I got lost on signing in on iPhone, but will try to figure it out later. Thanks!
getting an error on desktop while trying to decrypt my notes, perhaps nos2x issue?
Yes there is a bug in web/mobile, it reacts to right click.
I will check the door tap issue.
Files are encrypted with a random AES key, the key is stored in the encrypted payload of kind 33302, along with the final URL and other metadata.
Instead files with a size below 32KB are base64 encoded in the event.
I will allow to pick specific relays from the outbox selection, and maybe adding approval ones.
Happy you like it!
makes sense, thanks! when you have it fleshed out a spec/NIP wouldn't hurt. very useful functionality and I'm glad no gift wraps are involved.
In theory indeed.
Marmot is a total mess if you want to fetch by kind etc... You need the whole group state all the time etc.... Maybe sth can be done similar to how they do blossom, but I'm to stupid for that.
Nip-17 is not an option for me. Too many attack vectors.
If encrypting your notes with Nip-44, I think it can be a good enough solution for mil content type groups too, I think. With a stroooooong incentive to have your own server obviously.
The first mockup has a microphone icon, so...
It should not happens, nos2x works fine here.
Never seen this MAC error.
Is it a text or file?
This works great, I want to stop using the JS bloat that is StandardNotes (which is better than every other note taking app, by the way).
But the fact that this requires Nostr keys feels wrong in a way. Now I'm not sure if I should use some random new key or if I use a bunker, but then it gets slow and whatnot.
Don't do this. Why try to compete with Google and make a big bloated slow thing when all I need is a simple fast app for writing text notes?
you can you
@kohei 's app for that
As you already suggested, probably offering the creation of a new nsec in-app in a good solution.
TL;DR: addressable events with NIP-44 encryption, and AES encryption for files.
I will publish the NIP next week.
Hello 👋 Daniele ☺️
Let me know if you any any trouble.
I'm planning a way to release the IOS version.
Hi
Legend ☺️I hear you
Tx
Amazing tool! I am really one the ones ashamed of using tg saved messages! One thing could be a killer...when on mobile you copy the note text is it possible to make Manent appear in the pasteable app menu? So no need to open Manent, just copy select and done!
I don't see it in my android when i copy the text.
The contextual menu now appears on tap on web-mobile.
The context menu now appears when you tap on the web-mobile.
I can't replicate the two taps to send, I'll look into it further.
Interesting feature, I will evaluate it. Thanks!
Fixed: now the menu on web-mobile should open on a simple tap.
Works fine 🤙
Hey I am not technical Person but I have one question
The Private encrypted message stored on relay right so with the help of npub a person who is in charge of relay can find out who messaged who , like worst case scenario a social map can be created
It's a note app, not a messaging one, so there isn't any risk.
Anyway, Nostr NIP-17 private messages use gift wraps (NIP-59), so they don't leak any metadata.
One more note: a relay operator cannot know anything more than a casual person that access the relay.
Ah, that gift wrap thing makes sense—I was actually worried about the same thing when a friend asked me about Nostr's privacy earlier this week, so this clears it up. Good to know relay operators aren't sitting there building social maps.
Are you working on Manent specifically to make note-taking more private, or is privacy just a nice side effect of building on Nostr?
Understood Thanks for your time , Definately Going to use manent this whole week will share feedback
I want a simple, fast and self sovereign note taking experience. Even if I don't usually like the paradigm of "Nostr as a database", it fits quite well into this small personal tool that can make your personal relays even more useful.
I like this! I’ll start using the web app and let you know it goes.
I found the
@Keychat browser to be very difficult to build for. I can’t get
@Ghostr to work with it either. Would love to know why, but I already wasted far too many Claude tokens trying to fix it.
Could you let me know what issue you ran into when using Manent in the Keychat browser? It seems to be working fine on my end.
I just tested Manent in
@Keychat and with the last update it seems to work fine.
when I try to log in I get a blank page
that blank page energy. did you try a different browser or is it doing that everywhere?
Maybe try updating Keychat to the latest version.
Could you check the Keychat version on the Me page? Even quite old versions shouldn’t have this issue.
I had an old version; updating to the new one solved the issue
Thanks
Ciao Daniele! Davvero comodo Manent, lo uso di continuo ormai, mi permetto di scriverti in italiano qui.
Un'altra cosetta...ho provato a inviare un file per la.prima volta e me lo salva ( su android ) in un percorso interno. Non nel classico Download...credo per l'utente normale.sarebbe meglio la.classica cartella Download...
Mi fa piacere si stia rivelando utile :)
Anche io stesso mi sono stupito di quanto lo stia usando, e di quanto mi mancava un "taccuino" veloce come Manent.
In merito alla tua segnalazione: ho notato la stessa problematica proprio oggi, conto di sistemare a breve!
Sì ottimo davvero, fuori dai soliti noti, veloce e simcronizzato tra mobile e web, poi nostr pure self hostable un relay tuo! Sistema quelle.cosette ed e davvero utilissimo!
Funzia! Ottimo, anche aggiornamento con Obtainium senza problemi!
Can someone give me a clue how to login via android with Bunker URL please
Nvm I used Amber
oh nice, nostrpad looks clean. what made you build it instead of just using telegram like the rest of us heathens?
Nice!
Thanks 💜
Great! Although Manent obviously cannot compete with database solutions such as Joplin, it immediately replaced Google Keep (for smaller note solutions that you also want to have with you on mobile). THANK YOU!
Write notes, attach images and files, edit them anytime, and access everything across your devices. A simple and clear chronological order, zero fuss. No plaintext data at rest or in transit, everything (notes, files, metadata) is encrypted with NIP-44 before leaving your device.
Manent is multi-platform: Web, Android, Linux, macOS (iOS and Windows builds untested).
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