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Fuck google. They are the top of my block list.
Don't beg them.
Fuck them. Build the alternatives.
we need more devices with graphene >_< they can't make people sign these things for buying a pixel tho, so there's still a hole in this thing. they really can't ever completely close up custom rom dev because AOSP devs build many parts they depend on.
i just wish there was an alternative to buying from the pigs themselves instead, i should be able to run it at least on samsung, motorola maybe. nope.
Yes.
Graphene will be working with another OEM in 2026
This is why i'm bullish on nostr + shakespeare + routstr
I haven't Googled anything in 10 years.
I have installed and run GrapheneOS on a few Pixel phones in my family ... including my kids and in-laws and their kids.
Is the Linux phone still a thing? I have some research to start.
so bullish 💪
Once you de-google, you never go back
my plan to tackle this is to have two phones:
1) regular android phone only with the apps that require Google Play Store (banking apps, Gmaps etc.)
2) degoogled phone (either graphene or LineageOS without Play Store), with zap store and other APKs that are not currently on Play Store
Does it mean that devs can't publish their apps on googles app store without registration?
But will devs still be able to publish their apps on alternative stores like zap store?
Or is it more complex?
Yeah… that’s not not happening on REDACTED’s watch 😈
The only thing that changes is that, from next year on, stock Android will refuse to install an APK if a user hasn't registered with Google
*I meant, if the developer of the APK hasn't registered
Most people will feel that it's too hard / expensive.
Privacy awareness is not binary. It's a spectrum. Some people see privacy as super important and will go to great lengths to keep it. Some don't care about it at all and will not suffer any inconvenience for the sake of privacy.
Most people are somewhere in the middle. Which means the easier it is to gain privacy, the more people will have it.
A better solution will be a VM inside graphenos tor android apps. If it's easy to set up, people will go for it.
Will it then still be possible to use grapheneOS on pixel phones.
Suck for devs for sure that they will lose reach when they don't want to register in Google
Will it be still possible to install any APK via ADB CLI?
I hope this will also help to jump start the Linux phone era.
Yes adb will still work from what I read
Check out Furi OS
Will we be able to use those Google play apk's on GrapheneOS? I think so, because of backward compatibility. But with the Google play Integrity API, the writing is on the wall that their ultimate goal is to keep the apps for Google-authorised builds of Android only. Fuck em, they can keep their spyware apps
Why two phones? You can do all that with Graphene (minus apps that specifically use the Play Integrity API) in separate/private profiles
How many apps are there for Linux phones?
I agree about the 2 phones; a "normie" phone that's already working with known data, and another that isn't.
You can totally use Google Play Services on a different profile on the same GrapheneOS device.
Banking apps no idea, people still use banks? 😉 why not use a computer or web version for that?
My bank (and presumably others) requires their app with location services enabled in order to use Zelle, which is the least shitty way I've found to send fiat to people. 😮💨