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:P 3 months ago
Calle is a spook

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:P 3 months ago
Yeah because nuts are bitcoin right? Go play with your imaginary bitcoin and JPEGs
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:P 3 months ago
Bitchat leaks location data Cashu is not Bitcoin And he bros down with Shinobi Straight spook
I don't even have any echash and I don't do jPEgs. But whatever. You clearly can't hack it when it comes to facts so you just sling your own shit at people you disagree with. Attribute motive to detractors when they don't even have those motives.
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:P 3 months ago
lol The fact is core is on a power trip making changes that users (node runners) disagree with. You can use all the big brain logic you want but the simple truth is core isn’t in charge. Nor are the miners. The node runners will forever be in control. image
You’re all spooks imo, the only reason I use Nostr is so I can keep up with all the spook activity.
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jb55 _@jb55.com 3 months ago
core didn’t even remove the option and there is well reasoned justification for the change. what is your response to cores most comprehensive answer to this debate? Or are you now stuck with personal attacks now that your narrative has been completely unravelled.
So I've been silently observing, but I don't think I've seen any evidence towards: > and given enough incentives to bypass it (as we've seen exist) The constantly unwritten thing here is this desire to enable these services like citrea. Giving core the benefit of the doubt, the only "bypass" we have observed (AFAIK) is their willingness to use junk utxos. Just as jpegs in the witness can be called out as temporary, so too can citrea's attack if we don't facilitate their desires. Both cause irreversible damage btw, increasing the cost to run a node. Maybe the utxo bloat is objectively worse? Would be good to learn. What is your thoughts on that.
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jb55 _@jb55.com 3 months ago
if there is an economic desire for these protocols to exist, the job of core devs is to make sure they do it in the least harmful way possible to decentralization. it's really that simple.
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jb55 _@jb55.com 3 months ago
why is confusing here. at bitcoin++ mempool antoine explained this pretty clearly. he talked to citrea people and realized they were about to launch something that would be damaging to the network and he proposed a solution. that's how this all started.
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:P 3 months ago
What personal attacks? Do you think cashu is bitcoin? Since when is stating an opinion is not an “attack”. What you can’t seem to get through your head is that trust in core developers is broken. They can walk it back all they want but they have shown their true colors. They made a controversial decision without taking node runners’ input into consideration. Instead of having an open conversation they locked down their repo and attacked people with opposing views. Knots software lets me configure my node however I’d like. I can configure it to be like core if I want. Core is catering to shitcoiners and I don’t want nothing to do with that.
"core didn't remove the option" is disingenuous. Core made the default value 100k bytes and deprecated the option. That's what people are opposed to.
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jb55 _@jb55.com 3 months ago
also deprecated doesn’t mean guaranteed to be removed. It can be used as a discouragement of use
Ocean employees fucked around with Core GitHub and found out 🤙🏽😂 Thinking Core are shitcoiners is so wrong bro
Absolutely not. There was economic desire to do everything that the shitcoins do and it was never the job of core to make that stuff happen either. But also, even if it were the case. How do we measure the economic desire? We can't expect people to jump on board based on words and second hand observations. If it really is that simple in your mind, then you must have some data?
Entrepreneurs in plural yes. Not in singular. Entrepreneurs in plural don't typically band together to demand one feature (sometimes they do and it gets done, and sometimes they lose like with RBF)... For this case, I don't see a bunch of people advertising all the different use cases that all these different entrepreneurs will enable with this change and defending it. Heck I don't even see people promoting citrea and what it can do. I hear more about covenant implementations. Also, entrepreneurs that are waiting for a change in a decentralised system or who are willing to cause harm instead are not exactly who the core team and the users are supposed to bend over for. Fortunately users are self serving, and I'm bullish on people informing themselves, having an opinion and doing what they think is best for themselves, and this change is not an "end of the world" type thing, but it is ruining reputations the way it is rolling out and the way certain devs are behaving.
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n0>1 3 months ago
So this is a business now.
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Lucas M 2 months ago
That's a fair enough description.
Bitcoin is money. Core devs job is to keep Bitcoin safe and sound as money. Definitely not to support whatever people have a financial interest in doing. People have a financial interest in doing all kinds of things. Core devs job is to defend our money against all those financial interests that threaten Bitcoin's ability to function efficiently as money, now and in the future. We definitely don't need to reproduce the fiat casino on Bitcoin.